Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[aconte]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Most of us who belong to Net54 are content with our low grade raw T206's and T213's. My guess is that there are only a few dozen people on this forum who give a rat's ass about a trimmed $5000 Giannis rookie.

Hopefully, more people here care about the VG 3 Green Ruth, Psa 1.5 to 2
T227 Cobb, and the Red T206 Cobb that went from 1.5 to 3 that have been
shown as possibly bad on blowout. These are just a few I found this morning.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by aconte

Hopefully, more people here care about the VG 3 Green Ruth, Psa 1.5 to 2
T227 Cobb, and the Red T206 Cobb that went from 1.5 to 3 that have been
shown as possibly bad on blowout. These are just a few I found this morning.

Exactly. We can claim that it's only rich assholes who care about altered cards here but the low grade ones are getting altered as well. The fraud affects the entire hobby, like it or not.

[ullmandds]

Check out this gem!

At this point I am sure I have altered cards in my collection makes me want to vomit!

http://www.sportscardradio.com/gary-...-bidding-scam/

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Check out this gem!

At this point I am sure I have altered cards in my collection makes me want to vomit!

http://www.sportscardradio.com/gary-...-bidding-scam/

We've been discussing that for hours my friend.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

We've been discussing that for hours my friend.

I was weeding!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I was weeding!

A good metaphor for some of this, hopefully.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I was weeding!

Is that what they're calling it these days? We used to say we were pulling BH's.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I was weeding!

Is that legal in Minnesota now?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Is that legal in Minnesota now?

no frank...not yet!

[BobbyVCP]

So after a very long day and some lengthy conversations we have been given the go ahead for now to start posting the buyer coded information once again.

So now I see that I have conspired to remove back images with PWCC to match up with his historical data in his Market Price Research deal. That is very laughable, what do I get to gain from any of it?

Believe me when they launched that along with PSA launching theres as well did not make us feel too good. But you know what having all that data is great, the important part is what you do with that data. And what VCP does with the data is far superior.

[Kenny Cole]

I'm out on PWCC. Already passed on some cards pretty high on my want list. Stuff certainly doesn't trump all for me, particularly if I think there is an issue with regard to legitimacy. Hopefully others will make the same decision. It is beyond clear, at least to me, that they are dirty.

I've never personally submitted a single card to PSA so that's not an issue for me. I had a friend submit 4, all of which ironically came back as an A. Guess I didn't know the right people and I thought they were dead wrong on at least 2, but I still sold them as A's. I was previously a SGC guy but quit that when the Mastro shill list came out and Forman was on it. Haven't submitted to SGC since.

I am currently withholding judgment and watching carefully (and hopefully thoughtfully) about what is purportedly going on with VCP. I will make that decision when I think I have enough evidence. I'm not there yet.

[CMIZ5290]

I want to add this because everyone seems to be singling out PSA. I think this activity also goes on with SGC.....