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Old 01-15-2021, 05:14 PM
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Default Matthews (Atlanta) E254: Help needed from Southern League/Colgan's Chip experts!

Need some help with the identity of the player shown on the E254 Colgan's Chip Matthews (Atlanta)

Checklists and eBay listings have him as Bill Matthews, however the player who was on the 1910 Atlanta Crackers roster was Harry Matthews.

Is this a case where Bill's image was used for Harry or is there an error on an early checklist?

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Old 01-15-2021, 06:38 PM
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Default Matthews

Looks more like Harry Matthew who played with the NO Pelicans in 1908 (Far Left), and then Atlanta in 1909.

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William Matthews played with Boston. Does not appear to be him:

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Old 01-15-2021, 07:19 PM
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Default Thanks for the response!

Thanks for the response!

Here is the baseball reference page or Harry Matthews:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=matthe001har

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Default Closeup picture?

Anyone have a closeup picture of Harry Matthews?

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Old 01-16-2021, 07:44 PM
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Default Harry "Smutter" Matthews

Found an interesting article by using Harry's nickname of Smutter.

https://times-herald.com/news/2020/0...-major-leagues


Here is a picture of him as manager of the Newnan team in the Georgia-Alabama League in 1915 and a full body shot on the 1908 New Orleans Pelicans.

Anyone think the E254 image is Harry?

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Old 01-21-2021, 05:50 PM
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Default Help from Southern League experts needed!

Any of our Southern League experts have a picture of Harry Matthews to compare to the Matthews (Atlanta) E254?

Thanks in advance,

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Here is “a” Harry Mathews, coach of Cleveland 1926-27.
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Old 01-21-2021, 09:01 PM
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Default Thanks Ed!

Thanks Ed!

Looks like the E254 Colgan's Chip checklist needs a correction!

So far, all the evidence points to Harry "Smutter" Matthews as the player image on the Matthews (Atlanta) E254 Colgan's Chip.

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You guys did that well. Now to get the guides to accept what you've sussed out and correct their listings. Congratulations and thank you!
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Thanks Frank!

Since Harry Matthews was a catcher, and I'm confident now that it's his image, I added him to my collection last night.

Thanks to the two gentlemen that provided images!

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Old 01-22-2021, 05:08 PM
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Default Harry versas Bill

Harry Matthews was clearly the person on the 1910 Atlanta Crackers roster.

Therefore, the real question was simply is that Harry's picture or Bill's picture on the E254 Colgan's Chip.

All evidence points to Harry's image not Bill, who had a dimped chin.

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