1952 mantle pwcc psa 8

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by sflayank

now upto 425k

so anyone going to allege shilling? funny pwcc much less likely to have shilling than regular seller....I guess someone wants to win winning their own card back now and lose 25k or whatever on fees. yeah right

also overnight delivery with insurance for $250 I believe? for a card for $450k I would have a brinks truck deliver the card..

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so anyone going to allege shilling? funny pwcc much less likely to have shilling than regular seller....I guess someone wants to win winning their own card back now and lose 25k or whatever on fees. yeah right

also overnight delivery with insurance for $250 I believe? for a card for $450k I would have a brinks truck deliver the card..

I'm certainly not going to allege it. PWCC says, " Auction integrity is their #1 priority ". They said it themselves.....

[pokerplyr80]

I don't think there's any need to shill this one. The price is already higher than the card has been selling for lately. Even if the consignor had considered it, which I certainly hope he didn't, i doubt he would at this point.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I don't think there's any need to shill this one. The price is already higher than the card has been selling for lately. Even if the consignor had considered it, which I certainly hope he didn't, i doubt he would at this point.

right...people act like shilling is so common with these consignors..but it occurs much less than regular sellers


jessie.why not bid more on this card....that way you wont regret being an underbidder on this card 15 years from now and wont have to start another thread about regrets of being an underbidder.....they give you 6 months financing afterall ..thats enough time to mortgage everything or get some loans..so cant say you dont have the money...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right...people act like shilling is so common with these consignors..but it occurs much less than regular sellers

Are you seriously saying the average eBay sellers auctions are shilled more than a consigners auction? Do you have anything to base this opinion on?

[Peter_Spaeth]

That stain to me is pretty trivial.

[1952boyntoncollector]

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[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Are you seriously saying the average eBay sellers auctions are shilled more than a consigners auction? Do you have anything to base this opinion on?

do you have any other information otherwise? I know a private seller can make two accounts and be the 'high bidder' on one of them and cancel the sale between their two accounts..i just don't see probstein in cahoots with 2000 consignors to cancel a sale afterwards........

A consignor risks having to be a high bidder and paying a buyers premium on their own card if they win it at an auction house....if they have two or more accounts and they 'win' their card..there is zero chance.....that's what my opinion is based on...

you think if it was a private account for the 1952 mantle psa 8..with some guy with 50 feeback theres less of a chance he would shill it then pwcc?

go consign a card to pwcc/probstein and win your own consignment with them and tell me what happens...if you are too scared to do it..that proves my point......

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

do you have any other information otherwise? I know a private seller can make two accounts and be the 'high bidder' on one of them and cancel the sale between their two accounts..i just don't see probstein in cahoots with 2000 consignors to cancel a sale afterwards........

A consignor risks having to be a high bidder and paying a buyers premium on their own card if they win it at an auction house....if they have two or more accounts and they 'win' their card..there is zero chance.....that's what my opinion is based on...

you think if it was a private account for the 1952 mantle psa 8..with some guy with 50 feeback theres less of a chance he would shill it then pwcc?

go consign a card to pwcc/probstein and win your own consignment with them and tell me what happens...if you are too scared to do it..that proves my point......

Why do you choose to overlook PWWC has come on this forum and said they have let people shill their own auction in the past. It has also been proven several times that people have shilled their consignments with Probstein with him knowing it and doing nothing about it.

I like your funny weird posts but in all seriousness are they done just to troll?

[alfredoleal2001]

wish I had some extra change to pick this one up lol

[sflayank]

Btw. Card sold for 62500 including buyers in 2005
Legendary auction...nice profit for the buyer

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right...people act like shilling is so common with these consignors..but it occurs much less than regular sellers


jessie.why not bid more on this card....that way you wont regret being an underbidder on this card 15 years from now and wont have to start another thread about regrets of being an underbidder.....they give you 6 months financing afterall ..thats enough time to mortgage everything or get some loans..so cant say you dont have the money...

I didn't start that thread I commented on it. And I won't be regretting this one. For me to pay off 500k in 6 months would require a substantial jump in income.