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Old 06-16-2020, 09:44 PM
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I would imagine if there is anything the far-right and the BLM potesters could agree on, it's that the looters losers out just to create mayhem have pretty much ruined any chance at intelligent conversation.
Then both of those sides would rage over what constitutes "intelligent conversation". Always has to be something
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:24 AM
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Then both of those sides would rage over what constitutes "intelligent conversation". Always has to be something
same argument of what Near Mint means in raw cards.....
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Criminals do not obey gun laws. Can you understand that if someone will kill another person, they are not going to respect laws that tell them they can't have their gun? For that matter, can you understand such a person is also not going to pay attention to a paper sign on a door that says "Guns not allowed?"

It is incredibly naive to think we can be just like Europe if only we can pass more gun laws. Law abiding people, by definition, obey such laws. Law breakers, by definition, do not. So liberals would have increased restrictions on law abiding people being able to defend themselves, they would weaken law enforcement, while criminals would sit there with big grins on their faces. So much easier to rob, beat, and steal from people when liberals have rendered them utterly defenseless.
18 murders in Chicago just this weekend. Do you really think a few more gun control laws would've prompted those murderers to stop, reconsider, and turn in their weapons instead?



I agree 100% with this argument. Well stated, Mark.
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Criminals do not obey gun laws. Can you understand that if someone will kill another person, they are not going to respect laws that tell them they can't have their gun? For that matter, can you understand such a person is also not going to pay attention to a paper sign on a door that says "Guns not allowed?"

It is incredibly naive to think we can be just like Europe if only we can pass more gun laws. Law abiding people, by definition, obey such laws. Law breakers, by definition, do not. So liberals would have increased restrictions on law abiding people being able to defend themselves, they would weaken law enforcement, while criminals would sit there with big grins on their faces. So much easier to rob, beat, and steal from people when liberals have rendered them utterly defenseless.
18 murders in Chicago just this weekend. Do you really think a few more gun control laws would've prompted those murderers to stop, reconsider, and turn in their weapons instead?



I agree 100% with this argument. Well stated, Mark.
where is the fund raising money for those 18 murder victims (who wont be obtaining money from the government in a lawsuit) in chicago assuming black lives matter...

there is plenty of money for the 2 victims of the police and money for the protestors and rioters to get out of jail but it appears the murder victims you stated and store owners (and jobs) are left behind..

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Old 06-17-2020, 01:09 PM
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where is the fund raising money for those 18 murder victims (who wont be obtaining money from the government in a lawsuit) in chicago assuming black lives matter...

there is plenty of money for the 2 victims of the police and money for the protestors and rioters to get out of jail but it appears the murder victims you stated and store owners (and jobs) are left behind..
These things are already happening:

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06...up-the-pieces/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/busines...oting-business

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Exactly. It's possible to be against both kinds of violence at the same time.

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those are just a few examples and pennies on the dollar as there was over 20 million dollars in damages.

i also dont see anything for the 100s of black crime victim families who had a loved one die....i would think that would be more of a priority then fixing a store.. given that BLM

the statutes that are being torn down could of been sold to europe for example and paid for years of after school programs instead of ripped down...i think the lives would be improved a lot more doing it that way..
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those are just a few examples and pennies on the dollar as there was over 20 million dollars in damages.

i also dont see anything for the 100s of black crime victim families who had a loved one die....i would think that would be more of a priority then fixing a store.. given that BLM

the statutes that are being torn down could of been sold to europe for example and paid for years of after school programs instead of ripped down...i think the lives would be improved a lot more doing it that way..
I keep referring to information and posting these links for you to show you that you're making assumptions. Everything you've wondered about is already being put into practice because these issues are important to the people involved in them. If these issues are important to you, you have a responsibility to inform yourself. You also have the opportunity to get involved.

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