PWCC Auction Ending Tonight - Interesting Results

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

right, blithering morons who know about the billion $$$ scam but support it because they obviously lack education. It's absurd and laughable how people can turn a blind eye to an obvious scam. They can't stop popping. it's way too exciting to pop, I guess and spend there $$$ on idiotic things.

They will be eating cat food during retirement is my guess because they wasted their entire life without a backbone and floated aimlessly through life like a spineless amoeba.

Enjoy looking at your fake, made for slab cards, eating your cat food...

Cat Food ! I love your passion And Guess what others might be in denial, you sure as hell are not! You know how long and deep this goes back. I’d venture to say 30-50% of all early Tobacco cards in PSA holders have been worked on/altered.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

No, it's actually very good analogy...

It's actually a terrible analogy. You are comparing a card grader to a drug dealer. Think about that for a moment.

[RCMcKenzie]

A better analogy is selling your 1978 Fiat and then going back to the Fiat enthusiasts chat board and telling everyone how crummy Fiat's are. It's just a hobby. I try to enjoy it for what it is.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

A better analogy is selling your 1978 Fiat and then going back to the Fiat enthusiasts chat board and telling everyone how crummy Fiat's are. It's just a hobby. I try to enjoy it for what it is.

I told myself yesterday that I really need to do the bolded part. For a long time I have tried to help people not get scammed. For the most part all it has done is cause me grief. It is super easy to con someone, it is almost impossible to convince that same person they have been conned.

[Goudey77]

Falling on deaf ears and sounding like a broken record on Net54 to the same crowd.

More importantly let's get this thread back on track. How are the December results panning out?

They had some excellent Cobb's go off in auction last night!

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Falling on deaf ears and sounding like a broken record on Net54 to the same crowd.

More importantly let's get this thread back on track. How are the December results panning out?

They had some excellent Cobb's go off in auction last night!

The low pop, low grade mello mints sold well. I swung and missed on all 4. I really wanted the Tinker, it's a tough one.

And, Ben, no worries, I'm not a graded card guy. I'll be okay. Thanks, Rob

[t206fanatic]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

The low pop, low grade mello mints sold well. I swung and missed on all 4. I really wanted the Tinker, it's a tough one.

And, Ben, no worries, I'm not a graded card guy. I'll be okay. Thanks, Rob

The Tinker sold at LOTG for $2400 in 2016, and yesterday for just over $1500-- market was a bit drier for the card this go 'round.

[RCMcKenzie]

I hope they come down some more, so I can collect this set again. I should have kept bidding on the e105 Evers in Heritage. the winner of that one got a nice card.

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I hope they come down some more, so I can collect this set again. I should have kept bidding on the e105 Evers in Heritage. the winner of that one got a nice card.

and at a fabulous price. Too many auctions going at once stopped me from going after it.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It's actually a terrible analogy. You are comparing a card grader to a drug dealer. Think about that for a moment.

Like the drug dealer, if you keep supporting them then they won't change, but will in fact, bring more harm to the neighborhood/hobby like I already mentioned.

Think about that for a moment.

[perezfan]

I like the analogy. Aren’t baseball card collectors basically addicts as well?

Both the Drug Dealer and TPG are benefitting from illegal sh*t, and will continue to do so until people stop paying them.

The only significant difference is that the local drug dealer makes small potatoes, when compared to his counterparts in Newport Beach.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I like the analogy. Aren’t baseball card collectors basically addicts as well?

Both the Drug Dealer and TPG are benefitting from illegal sh*t, and will continue to do so until people stop paying them.

The only significant difference is that the local drug dealer makes small potatoes, when compared to his counterparts in Newport Beach.

There is no equivalence here. Are you seriously equating the damage drugs do to people with altered baseball cards? Come on Mark.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is no equivalence here. Are you seriously equating the damage drugs do to people with altered baseball cards? Come on Mark.

Ok... it was a “tongue in cheek” comment. Of course the drug dealer is more criminal and harmful to society. Goes without saying...

But there is a little similarity there, with regard to the addiction thing. I fully admit to being an “addict” and a slave to this stuff. And have spent money in unhealthy ways- when it could’ve gone towards bills or charity or something more meaningful to basic life needs.

So I do think that TPG and Drug Dealer both benefit from addictive human tendencies.

Can we at least agree on that?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Fair.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

and at a fabulous price. Too many auctions going at once stopped me from going after it.

Yeah, I was the under-bidder, go get 'em next time, I guess. I kept saving for the next auction. At least I have a hobby bankroll left for the next auctions.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is no equivalence here. Are you seriously equating the damage drugs do to people with altered baseball cards? Come on Mark.

You're missing the point entirely. I am talking about supporting an undesirable, whether that person is a drug dealer, a crooked accountant, a crooked lawyer, a crooked car salesman, a crooked business, whoever. Why would one use these known entities that exploit this type of behavior then continue to do so?

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by irv

You're missing the point entirely. I am talking about supporting an undesirable, whether that person is a drug dealer, a crooked accountant, a crooked lawyer, a crooked car salesman, a crooked business, whoever. Why would one use these known entities that exploit this type of behavior then continue to do so?

Sadly because it’s not the good of the hobby to many it’s about the good of their wallet bottom line.

It’s a shame.....it is what it is.....has always been this way. It’s corrupt but it’s just baseball cards, we are just malcontents on a message board. It’s better for me to remember the fun this hobby brings.

I’m going to just try and find some joy left from it. Life is to short to be bitter and angry.....the heck with it.

[maddux311]

With all of the talk on the E98 Cobb PSA 9s, I found it interesting to see one on Rally Rd with a 39k valuation.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by maddux31

With all of the talk on the E98 Cobb PSA 9s, I found it interesting to see one on Rally Rd with a 39k valuation.

That’s very interesting considering it just sold in REA for 19.2K and in Heritage for 19.2K. Like a week ago. Oh and in PWCC for 20.9K in September. Those are the last three auction sales. That’s what I’d call a consensus.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by maddux31

With all of the talk on the E98 Cobb PSA 9s, I found it interesting to see one on Rally Rd with a 39k valuation.

I thought Rally Rd was for sportsCARS??

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by calvindog

That’s very interesting considering it just sold in REA for 19.2K and in Heritage for 19.2K. Like a week ago. Oh and in PWCC for 20.9K in September. Those are the last three auction sales. That’s what I’d call a consensus.

Does that mean PWCC shilled it up $1700?

Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. For what it’s worth, I have seen prices in the past 3-4 pwcc auctions, on things I collect, more in-line with expectations; although I am still angry, dubious and not bidding yet.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It's actually a terrible analogy. You are comparing a card grader to a drug dealer. Think about that for a moment.

I still like the analogy. A card grader (PSA) is every bit as bad as a drug dealer in this wild west, ripe with fraud scenario. Collectors like yourself are addicted to PSA, their slabs, their pops and all the BS that goes along with it.

If you can't stop in the face of this billion $$$ fraud.... I hate to break it to you, but you are addicted.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Yeah, I was the under-bidder, go get 'em next time, I guess. I kept saving for the next auction. At least I have a hobby bankroll left for the next auctions.

Me too...I am so excited for the next PWCC fake trimmed auctions...You guys sleigh me

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by irv

You're missing the point entirely. I am talking about supporting an undesirable, whether that person is a drug dealer, a crooked accountant, a crooked lawyer, a crooked car salesman, a crooked business, whoever. Why would one use these known entities that exploit this type of behavior then continue to do so?

bing bing bing....Let's all go out and support Ponzi, I mean PSA because we don't believe he/they are a crooked in the face of losing our $$$$$.

let's all do the right thing and continue to support a fraudulent system where collectors get taken behind the woodshed and have the snot beat out of them like a red headed step child...it's fun to support crooks! PSA rocks, let's POP!!!!!

[phlflyer1]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Not sure where I heard that the highest grade pre was a "6" but shame on me for passing it along unresearched.

Hi Scott,

I don't stop by the board too often or else I would have responded earlier but I had the E98 set below (which I obtained from the original collector with my father back in the mid 1970s) graded at the 2005 National in Chicago.

Before the BSF, it was by far the highest graded set of E98s and has several examples that were graded higher than a 6 by SGC.

https://sgclegacy.com/usersetcomposi...&usersetid=872

Regards,

Scott

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought Rally Rd was for sportsCARS??

I just had to google them. Apparently you can buy a share of various collectibles, not just cars. I think I will pass either way.

[ullmandds]

Pretty crazy prices last night with PWCC. RUTH STRIP...albeit a colorful one sold for crazy money!!!!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-W519-S...8AAOSwlLheEO5d

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Pretty crazy prices last night with PWCC. RUTH STRIP...albeit a colorful one sold for crazy money!!!!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-W519-S...8AAOSwlLheEO5d

Crazy money for that card even if it is one of the nicest ones out there

[maddux311]

I would say it is fore speculators rather than collectors. I became aware of them when they made available a T206 Wagner, that way I could say I owned one.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...s-memorabilia/

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought Rally Rd was for sportsCARS??

[Rhotchkiss]

I didn’t even follow this auction - looked at the offerings when the auction began and there were very few cards I was even remotely interested in, so I guess I forgot. Time permitting, I may go back and look at the sale prices on a few t206s and see how they compare.

[t206fanatic]

There was a PSA 8 McElveen last night that previously sold at HA for $2220 in Sept -- went for $1790.

[phikappapsi]

I was watching the E98's; seeing if/when we ever find a bottom from the apparent limitless supply from the BSF. Crazy that a 8.5 Cobb goes for $11K (crazy cheap IMO) but it's apparent the supply side is not done yet, and those that bought BSF cards early on are taking a beating.

That set will end up the most affordable/attainable high grade set of E-Cards - which is kind of fun, since assuming everyone agrees about the provenance/authenticity; at least with those you can feel pretty sure they're unaltered.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Pretty crazy prices last night with PWCC. RUTH STRIP...albeit a colorful one sold for crazy money!!!!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-W519-S...8AAOSwlLheEO5d

That was a nice looking card. Apparently I under estimated the market on it.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That was a nice looking card. Apparently I under estimated the market on it.

That's one way to rationalize the hammer?

[pawpawdiv9]

i was bidding on the 1908 E102 Cobb (sgc10). It was nice and the wrinkles didnt bother me. I forgot that it was ending last night. I thought it was under-priced.