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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
I have gotten a lot of flack for purchasing this card. Funny how people say it is a "generous 2"? Have you actually seen the PSA 1s? They are so cracked and ripped, his face is barely able to be seen. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: jay behrens
I know of several unslabbed Wagners that are better. We need to remember that not all cards are slabbed, so making claims about being the best, or one of, etc isn't a real good idea since many great cards are in collection of hobbiests that refuse to get their cards slabbed. None the less, Wagner and is a Wagner and worthy of proud to be a owner of one no matter what the condition. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
Yeah -- I have heard that before. That there are better ones not graded...but they are not saleable and no one would ever buy one without it being graded. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: barrysloate
There is a major collector with an EX example that chooses not to get it slabbed. I have seen it many times and it is most certainly genuine. Not taking away from the one you bought, but there are perfectly good unslabbed ones in the hobby. Most have of course been graded. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Mark
Like you even own that card. We both know that's Toni's card and it's sitting in Rome right now until I win it in the Yahoo auction. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: John
Riggo; |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
I assure you I own it. Have the paperwork. Will take $250K for it. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
Yeas I am happy. Was at the National and saw the PSA 3 and PSA 5. Was a difference between those and the PSA 2 -- but not that much. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
Your message Wonka was sarcastic and jealous. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: jay behrens
the ones I know of that are unslabbed that are better than yours, I would be buy from those indiviuals in a heartbeat as these gentlemen are beyond reproach when it comes to hobby reputation. I don't need PSa or anyone else to tell me a Wagner is real. I've been lucky enough to examine a few and if these gentlemen can't tell a real Wagner from a fake, then no one can. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Paul
I guess your refering to my "generous" comment. Didn't mean to offend anybody. I sure wish I had that card. Congadulations. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: John
Nothing gets by you huh? |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
Wonka -- you are an angry angry angry person. Easy to sling when you dont have to do it face to face. Fact is -- if we were face to face -- I doubt you would be so bold -- me being a former Redskin and all. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Riggo
Good for you Jay -- then you go do that get yourself a nice reprint. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Wesley
Are you John Riggins? |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Riggo, chill out, we're all happy that a poster has a Wagner -- and I'm not even jealous. Go easy on the rest of the guys, no one's attacking you. As for being an ex-Redskin, if you beat up any of the guys on the board they'll just hire Adam to sue your ass and take the Wagner as a settlement. So be nice. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Mark
I have you in a PSA 7..love the fro. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: John
Actually I would give you an opinion regardless of who you are, face to face or not. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Paul
The ONLY reason I thought it was a "generous" 2, was that I have PSA 1's that look better than your card. PSA seems to be "generous" with the high doller cards. Go look at that 1914 Ruth that's being auctioned by REA. Anyway, as we all know the Wagner is a fantastic card in almost any condition. Now maybe we can talk about something that actually matters. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I doubt very seriously that this guy is really John Riggins. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: John
Just for the record I have never commented on the grade of this card, I have only commented on the new owners poor attitude. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: barrysloate
Some of the old time collectors choose not to get their cards slabbed. Since they are not selling, they are free to enjoy their rare cards as they wish. Certainly if the time came to sell, they would be advised to have their rare cards graded. Grading is still a relatively recent phenomenon, having gotten popular in the last five years or so. Not everyone, including myself, is smitten with it. It doesn't take away from any PSA Wagner, but it's pointless to assume that if a card isn't graded something is wrong with it. That's a typical reaction if you see an expensive ungraded card in an auction catalog; but in someone's private collection, it's as the owner chooses. The population report is only that; an accounting of cards submitted, not a reflection of all known examples. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: JimB
I am also aware of an ex condition Wagner in a private collection of one of the most knowledgeable people in this hobby. I am guessing it is the same one others are referring to here. I believe it was one of three ex condition Wagners that surfaced some years ago. One of the others was graded and received a PSA 5. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: JimB
Riggo, |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Dan Koteles
who has the best untrimmed ,unbeveled one in our hobby ? |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Paul
OK, sorry I ever commented about the grade, geez.... It's a beautiful card. If I could afford it, I would pay 200K for it. I would then just stare at it constantly, & get my moneys worth for sure. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: WP
Riggo, |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Anonymous
Are you sure you`re really not, Sonny Jurgenson? |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Scott Forrest
that perhaps we are being duped? This guy "Riggo" doesn't sound like someone who would have the ability to purchase a t206 Wagner. Unless K Whitmore played for the 'skins, I think this is just chain-pulling from a disgruntled scam artist. |
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Honus T206 on Mastonet PSA 2 Good
Posted By: Julie
--but that hardly means I wouldn't take Riggo's as a present! |
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