National may be in peril

[CrackaJackKid]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Are death and 100% full recovery the only two possible outcomes of getting COVID?

Never said it was. Yeah, it hits everyone differently but for the most part it’s nothing more than the flu for most. I’ve already had it.

Everyone claims to want to follow the science so given the numbers I’m gonna live my life like normal, if it really scares you that bad, then stay home.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

Never said it was. Yeah, it hits everyone differently but for the most part it’s nothing more than the flu for most. I’ve already had it.

Everyone claims to want to follow the science so given the numbers I’m gonna live my life like normal, if it really scares you that bad, then stay home.

I get my second shot tomorrow. I am still wearing a mask most times. In Texas, most places it's not mandatory. Some it still is but not most. It's suggested to but not mandated even where I workout.

My daughter, the data scientist, doesn't want to get one yet. She is 24 and married and all I can do is tell her I think she should, and I do tell her. She won't budge for now and says she might get one in the future. To each their own I guess.

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[CrackaJackKid]

[QUOTE=Leon;2098343]I get my second shot tomorrow. I am still wearing a mask most times. In Texas, most places it's not mandatory. Some it still is but not most. It's suggested to but not mandated even where I workout.

My daughter, the data scientist, doesn't want to get one yet. She is 24 and married and all I can do is tell her I think she should, and I do tell her. She won't budge for now and says she might get one in the future. To each their own I guess.

Exactly, to each their own. I refuse to wear a mask also. Expecting a surgical mask or a gator to protect you from a virus that’s nanometers small is like relying on a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. They’re plain theatre. Just my two cents.

[bnorth]

[QUOTE=CrackaJackKid;2098409]

Originally Posted by Leon

I get my second shot tomorrow. I am still wearing a mask most times. In Texas, most places it's not mandatory. Some it still is but not most. It's suggested to but not mandated even where I workout.

My daughter, the data scientist, doesn't want to get one yet. She is 24 and married and all I can do is tell her I think she should, and I do tell her. She won't budge for now and says she might get one in the future. To each their own I guess.

Exactly, to each their own. I refuse to wear a mask also. Expecting a surgical mask or a gator to protect you from a virus that’s nanometers small is like relying on a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. They’re plain theatre. Just my two cents.

That type of mask is to protect others from you if you have the virus. They do not protect you from getting it. This is one of the biggest problems, most don't even understand the types of masks and what they do. (insert hand slapping head emoji).

[Steve_NY]

Everyone has the choice to wear a mask or not, and to get the vaccine or not.

My choice was to get the vaccine several months ago, and to wear masks when required to do so, such as entering any establishment that states you should do so inside.

I have begun doing normal things again, and look forward to more easing of the COVID restrictions.

But here is a true story: Someone I know spoke out adamantly to not wear masks and to never get vaccinated. She spun all kinds of things that could happen to you by taking a vaccine that was not fully tested. She told me what was going to happen to me after getting the vaccine -- and she did scare me but I still weighed the options and decided since I already had issues to get vaccinated.

She died last month of COVID.

So I still think everyone has a personal decision to make, but you should really study the facts before making that decision.

[Exhibitman]

[QUOTE=bnorth;2098417]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

That type of mask is to protect others from you if you have the virus. They do not protect you from getting it. This is one of the biggest problems, most don't even understand the types of masks and what they do. (insert hand slapping head emoji).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087517/

"Airborne simulation experiments showed that cotton masks, surgical masks, and N95 masks provide some protection from the transmission of infective SARS-CoV-2 droplets/aerosols."



It isn't 100% but then nothing in life is except death and taxes.

[CrackaJackKid]

[QUOTE=bnorth;2098417]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

That type of mask is to protect others from you if you have the virus. They do not protect you from getting it. This is one of the biggest problems, most don't even understand the types of masks and what they do. (insert hand slapping head emoji).

Same concept...whether you have it or not, the virus can still get through the mask quite easily. If you want to join the theatre club and wear one or believe the same people who say that masks work but also told us the virus wasn’t transmissible person to person then that’s on you.

[Johnny630]

Who’s the root cause of this virus ? Why isn’t anyone being held accountable?

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Who’s the root cause of this virus ? Why isn’t anyone being held accountable?

China and a deep state op...

[jayshum]

[QUOTE=CrackaJackKid;2098461]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Same concept...whether you have it or not, the virus can still get through the mask quite easily. If you want to join the theatre club and wear one or believe the same people who say that masks work but also told us the virus wasn’t transmissible person to person then that’s on you.

That's how science works. New evidence is discovered so science and belief change over time. Science used to tell people that the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth and that cigarette smoking wasn't bad for you, but not too many people still believe those ideas any more since there is scientific evidence that they are all wrong.

Early on in this pandemic, it was believed that person to person transmission wasn't happening and that mask wearing wouldn't help. Now, there is scientific evidence that both of those beliefs were wrong.

[cardcountry]

For what it’s worth, I worked literally in the face of Covid patients (I’m an ER doctor) MANY times every shift for 9 months prior to getting my vaccines and never got sick. PPE works.

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by cardcountry

For what it’s worth, I worked literally in the face of Covid patients (I’m an ER doctor) MANY times every shift for 9 months prior to getting my vaccines and never got sick. PPE works.

Jeff, coming from you, my friend, your statement is worth a lot. Certainly far more than those of the clowns who always seem to appear in threads like these.

[Seven]

I've been vaccinated, my parents and loved ones are vaccinated. Would I be comfortable attending the National? I would say yes. I've gone out to dinner in practically full restaurants, as some places in NY don't really care about the COVID spacing requirements.

I will say, the one good thing about masks, as a teacher, is I haven't gotten sick, at all. Normally I come down with at least a Sinus infection or a case of Strep throat or Flu, from one of my students, once a year. I've been fully healthy this year, in the school building for most of it (Quarantine period, withstanding of course)

I'm ready to get back to normal life though, I'd imagine by July, I'll feel even more like that.

[cardcountry]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Jeff, coming from you, my friend, your statement is worth a lot. Certainly far more than those of the clowns who always seem to appear in threads like these.

Thanks buddy! Let’s catch up soon!

Jeff

[CrackaJackKid]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Jeff, coming from you, my friend, your statement is worth a lot. Certainly far more than those of the clowns who always seem to appear in threads like these.

“Clowns”....big talk keyboard warrior.

You’ve probably been fully vaccinated and still parade around with two masks on. Smh

[earlywynnfan]

[QUOTE=CrackaJackKid;2098409]

Originally Posted by Leon

I get my second shot tomorrow. I am still wearing a mask most times. In Texas, most places it's not mandatory. Some it still is but not most. It's suggested to but not mandated even where I workout.

My daughter, the data scientist, doesn't want to get one yet. She is 24 and married and all I can do is tell her I think she should, and I do tell her. She won't budge for now and says she might get one in the future. To each their own I guess.

Exactly, to each their own. I refuse to wear a mask also. Expecting a surgical mask or a gator to protect you from a virus that’s nanometers small is like relying on a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. They’re plain theatre. Just my two cents.

Asking seriously, do you feel masks are unnecessary for doctors operating on patients?

[glynparson]

I’ll have two masks on if we have a national I will be fully vaccinated. If you choose to have the balls to say something to my face about it you’ll know exactly what I think of you and it won’t be kind words. Frankly a bunch of idiot card guys acting like they know more than virologists are why so many died. Freakin ignorance like that. You clowns should be proud of yourselves.

[CrackaJackKid]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I’ll have two masks on if we have a national I will be fully vaccinated. If you choose to have the balls to say something to my face about it you’ll know exactly what I think of you and it won’t be kind words. Frankly a bunch of idiot card guys acting like they know more than virologists are why so many died. Freakin ignorance like that. You clowns should be proud of yourselves.

You sir, are the clown! And I hope the National goes on. I’d love to see all these keyboard warriors in person. I’d be willing to bet you guys aren’t so quick to name calling like you are here.

What’s the point of the vaccine if you still need two masks or any mask? Are you not following the science? It’s so comical with a 99.7 survival rate. Maybe you should look into bubble suits. 😂😂😂

[rainier2004]

I guess Jeff Foy, you know the ER Doc, is a keyboard warrior and not someone that has any actual experience in this area...b/c if you dont like what somewhat says we can just lower ourselves to another level.

I just dont understand the absolute animosity towards the mask...is it really that big of a deal to put on? I guess everyone has a different perspective on the situation, I wasnt given a choice as a nurse that hasn't had a vacation in over a year b/c there are so many f'ing sick people. At one point, I was coming home and changing in the garage while the clothes went straight into the washer and my ass went right into the shower while my wife kept our 5 yo twins away from me. That isnt necessary anymore as we now know...but why wouldn't I do that when we were unsure? PITA and all, but this is my family.

I've also seen a coworker die...the patient she got the virus from lived. I also have seen the look in my coworkers eyes as the hospital is way past capacity and we simply "have to make the best of it". Ive had 7 patients at a time w/o an aid or any help...how f'ing safe does that sound? Again, need to make the best of it.

I just am completely missing why some people cant put on the mask...perspective and context mean a lot. I guess Im a keyboard warrior too, but I'd rather be with people who think of the larger good than those that prove they can do what they want.

S Suckow RN

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

You sir, are the clown! And I hope the National goes on. I’d love to see all these keyboard warriors in person. I’d be willing to bet you guys aren’t so quick to name calling like you are here.

What’s the point of the vaccine if you still need two masks or any mask? Are you not following the science? It’s so comical with a 99.7 survival rate. Maybe you should look into bubble suits. 😂😂😂

Perhaps my question to you got lost above, do you feel doctors should wear masks or protective gear while operating? Or doctors or scientists working in a lab?

[arjones100]

The Chicago auto show got permission from state officials to have their event earlier in July. Why don't the National organizers get on the ball and do that?