Another Scammer on Our Forum - Beware on the BST

[Leon]

Another update in the bottom post....1/24/21


Yesterday I was apprised of a situation that happened very recently on our BST, which wasn't a good one. As we all know it is buyer beware, Caveat Emptor, check your trading partner (*can always PM me). blah, blah, blah, over there. Our members and our legal system are the only safeguards we have. So be careful.

The seller in this case had slipped in through some kind of back door (it can happen to almost any site). We really keep no secure type info so it shouldn't be a big deal.

But this member joined last week and had 0 posts. At a very minimum someone should PM me before doing any deal with a 0 post poster member unless the person is known, and is only a new member, it happens. Get references and call them! IF they won't give you a reference PM me immediately.

And to add a little fuel to the fire the seller (fake member) introduced our buying member to another person with a whole concocted story similar to a grandma's attic and it sort of checked out. Except the scans of the cards were taken from worthpoint upon further investigating. At any rate the deal was around $220, so not the end of the world but it still bites bad.

This isn't being posted for any other reason than to help keep our community as safe as we can. Yawl need to PM me first or another Mod (Brian or Chris B.) on stuff that seems weird. You stay anonymous and the situation can be addressed. Thanks for making the BST a really great place for trade. Please be careful over there.

Every thread needs a card...

[SAllen2556]

" A zero post poster " ??

That can't be right.



But seriously....that's a shame. I hope the scammer gets a good flogging.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

" A zero post poster " ??

That can't be right.



But seriously....that's a shame. I hope the scammer gets a good flogging.

Sorry, a member with 0 posts. Not enough coffee.

And here is more transparency to the subject- This is part of what was in the email to me.

I believe “tenspa” is a fraudulent person on net55 forums. This person contacted me and connected me to a collector named Nathaniel Valencia.

Thanks to the member who pointed out the fact the apparent fraudster(s) id's or names aren't out here. As said before, the fake member crawled in and was never approved for his/her registration, therefore no info on file. But the info above is good to have out here. I am not saying anything is true or not but this is info I credibly received.

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[t206fix]

Originally Posted by Leon

I believe “tenspa” is a fraudulent person on net55 forums


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Net55? is there a new version I wasn't invited to???

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by t206fix

Net55? is there a new version I wasn't invited to???

..have you ever visited Area 52 ? ....( Area 51 is a decoy )

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[maniac_73]

Good to know I did receive a PM from this person to contact "Nathaniel" for a card but I disregarded because it didnt pass the smell test.

[Jim65]

Always protect yourself by using PayPal Goods and Services, never Friends and Family or Venmo, they offer zero protection.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Always protect yourself by using PayPal Goods and Services, never Friends and Family or Venmo, they offer zero protection.

I agree if it is a new member or one you think might be a little shady. Then some of the legit sellers want it for easier tax purposes.

On the other end of the spectrum I have mailed a hand full of cash on many occasions to fellow members.

[triwak]

Hey Leon, isn't that Paul Waner standing at far right, back row??? ;-)

[commishbob]

I’ll toss this in...Leon quickly responded to a PM request of mine re: a new member offering cards at what looked like ‘too good to be true’ prices a few months back. Saved me from possibly making a costly mistake. Much appreciate his efforts to keep the board a good place to buy and sell.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by triwak

Hey Leon, isn't that Paul Waner standing at far right, back row??? ;-)

Not sure about Paul Waner, but if it is then maybe the guy next to Paul is Moses Fleetwood Walker.

[tonyo]

I think that guy at far right, back row is Ty Cobb posing for his t206 "Cobb bat-off shoulder"

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have mailed a hand full of cash on many occasions to fellow members.

Ben, I believe you have my current address on file.

[ramram]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

ben, i believe you have my current address on file.

Lololol

[rjackson44]

Frank is funny i like him

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by Leon

Every thread needs a card...

that photo is fascinating....

what is the chap in the middle holding up in both hands? (black shirt)

[NiceDocter]

Looks like it may be MORE COWBELL!!!!!

[tonyo]

hahaha.... oh he's part of the band. I see it now.

I thought he was holding up two of those little snubnosed pistols

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by NiceDocter

Looks like it may be MORE COWBELL!!!!!

Sorry - Couldn't resist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8fpVNhiqKQ

[JollyElm]

I can't possibly be the only one who read the title of this thread and immediately thought it referred to the new $1,800 man, right???

[bigred1]

+1

[Usc1]

Im part of other non-card forums and youre not allowed to sell without a minimum 100 posts.

I also suggested a deal feedback section a year ago to further vet bad sellers or buyers.


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[Cooper1927]

I would think a multiple authentication system could work. Time, 6 months on forum, posting, minimum (for arguments sake 50), or reference, 3 references. Any would suffice.


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[Casey2296]

Keep in mind, all these systems take someone to maintain, monitor, and police them. I think it's just Leon and his pet Armadillo runnin' the whole shootin' match here and their hands are pretty full already. This is one of the best self policing communities I've seen, even though the occasional Grifter gets through now and again they don't last long.

[timzcardz]

Thanks, Leon.

Oh, and I’ll pray for you too, whether you need it or not.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

When you think about the number of deals that get done on the board, it's amazing that there are so few problems. I think it speaks to the character of our members.

For example - I once did a deal for a large lot of cards and asked the seller to allow me to make multiple payments because I couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. The seller mailed me the entire lot with a note to "pay when you can." Obviously, I did.

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[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

When you think about the number of deals that get done on the board, it's amazing that there are so few problems. I think it speaks to the character of our members.

For example - I once did a deal for a large lot of cards and asked the seller to allow me to make multiple payments because I couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. The seller mailed me the entire lot with a note to "pay when you can." Obviously, I did.

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I really agree with this. I have done several deals on our BST forums and am amazed at how well they go. SOLID people. I feel safer here than on Ebay...

[Eric72]

Post counts can become irrelevant rather quickly.

I am NOT saying Adrian was a scammer. However, that guy could ring up 50 posts in a single day...

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Post counts can become irrelevant rather quickly.

I am NOT saying Adrian was a scammer. However, that guy could ring up 50 posts in a single day...

But that did give you an impression on who you were dealing with....

[Bpm0014]

Well run board the best ,,

Agree. THE BEST!