Fantastic Cleveland Browns pennant

[brownscollector78]

I was going through my phone and came across this photo. I do not recall where I got this image from but figured I would share it here for those interested in Cleveland and/or vintage pennants. Very awesome!

[perezfan]

Very cool... Never seen that one. I wonder if Showdawg is aware of it...

You should post it to the "Hey Pennant Guys" thread as well. Truly awesome pennant!

[Fballguy]

It is a cool pennant and very rare...but it is not vintage. I have one but haven't put it on my website because I suspect it's a modern creation. Can't find any record of it though. Not sure who made it.

[brownscollector78]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

It is a cool pennant and very rare...but it is not vintage. I have one but haven't put it on my website because I suspect it's a modern creation. Can't find any record of it though. Not sure who made it.

hmm if you have no record of it then how do you know its not vintage?

Im not saying youre wrong. I have no clue but I thought it was pretty sweet.

Is the felt soft or stiff? Thats generally a good indicator

[perezfan]

There are plenty of remakes with soft felt. Yes, the vast majority of pennants made post-1970 are generally stiff "felt" (if you can even call it felt).

But there are many reproduction and fantasy pennants that used soft felt. It is a different type of felt, but very soft none-the-less. When you have it in-hand, you can tell the difference from the repros and the vintage ones.

This one would likely be considered a fantasy pennant, as there is probably no original version that it is based upon.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

There are plenty of remakes with soft felt. Yes, the vast majority of pennants made post-1970 are generally stiff "felt" (if you can even call it felt).

But there are many reproduction and fantasy pennants that used soft felt. It is a different type of felt, but very soft none-the-less. When you have it in-hand, you can tell the difference from the repros and the vintage ones.

This one would likely be considered a fantasy pennant, as there is probably no original version that it is based upon.

It would seem to me, that as a modern production, that design and “Brownies” could be the maker’s attempt to avoid copyright infringement. That wouldn’t explain other “Brownies” pennants, of course, including (I think) an old WGN version.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by brownscollector78

hmm if you have no record of it then how do you know its not vintage?

I think he has had it “in hand” and he’s had a ton of football pennants to compare it to.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by brownscollector78

hmm if you have no record of it then how do you know its not vintage?

Im not saying youre wrong. I have no clue but I thought it was pretty sweet.

Is the felt soft or stiff? Thats generally a good indicator

Is you held it, you'd know. Thick, heavy felt. Doesn't smell vintage. When you know, you know.

[Fballguy]

That being said...Try finding one.

[brownscollector78]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Is you held it, you'd know. Thick, heavy felt. Doesn't smell vintage. When you know, you know.

Thanks

[RaiderPennantGuy]

There is one on Worthpoint.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...own-4546285041

"Rare Limited Edition Cleveland BrownsBrownie Elf Pennant4 Tassels Original Pristine ConditionThick wool felt, cream-colored pennantOnly 6 made, about 10 years agoNot vintage, but very rare pennant."