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While Florida gets hit with a hurricane Joe Biden is out there saying that it's vital people get their vaccine in order to help deal with a hurricane. You literally cannot make this shit up My house in Tampa is getting flooded and destroyed, but thank God I’m vaccinated. https://twitter.com/ChickenGate/stat...C9lf2NkNsrAAAA Preparing for a Hurricane Stay up to date on your COVID-19 vaccines. COVID-19 vaccines help protect you from getting sick or severely ill with COVID-19. Staying up to date on vaccines makes it less likely that you will be sick with COVID-19 while sheltering or evacuating from a hurricane, and less likely to need medical services while hospitals are under strain from the natural disaster. Pay attention to the COVID-19 Community Level in your area and follow recommendations to stay safe. Take steps to protect yours and others’ health while preparing for the hurricane. Pay attention to local guidance about updated plans for evacuations and shelters, including shelters for your pets. When you check on neighbors and friends, be sure to follow CDC recommendations to protect yourself and others. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/features/hu...ess/index.html
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"Congressman Thomas Massie 7/27/2022: "Vaccine Does Not Stop Spread of COVID" They lied to military personnel but fired them anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHtRpzcm6TI One weird trick to solve the military’s recruitment problem https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...32b896babfd135
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Mass formation Psychosis, a corrupt, crooked and biased media, censorship, big Pharma and the crooked gov't who pushed all this.
Nah, all conspiracy theories. This was all about your health and well being. https://www.oraclefilms.com/safeandeffective Give it a watch, especially those who still believe the vaccines work and believe everything covid/vaccine related was above board.
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Back in one of the other vaccine threads you wished me "Good luck without it and I mean that" to which I thanked you.
Today, I wish you. "Good luck with them and I mean that" In the likelihood you didn't watch the vid I most recently posted above, but are still wondering how you were fooled, duped or tricked into getting vaccinated, do yourself a favor and at least watch the vid from the 40:52 (I've time stamped it to start there) (Or the 45:22) mark onward. Hopefully it helps you, and the others, who are now silent in this thread, (who were quite vocal in the other 2), understand how that happened? From the very first covid thread, all I said I was trying to do was tell the other side of the story so I am glad this vid has now come out. https://tube.oraclefilms.com/w/dnGpS...8?start=40m52s
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rescuer says no vaccine no job
https://www.yahoo.com/video/biden-th...184820895.html
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What is totalitarianism? Totalitarianism is a form of government that attempts to assert total control over the lives of its citizens. It is characterized by strong central rule that attempts to control and direct all aspects of individual life through coercion and repression. It does not permit individual freedom" Currently happening in Western Australia. Anyone remember the vast majority of its citizens giving up/turning in their firearms? https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status...58229098717184 https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/par...EM%2B084-1.pdf
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The FDA Misled the Public About Ivermectin and Should Be Accountable in Court, Argues the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)
https://www.yahoo.com/now/fda-misled...l?guccounter=1
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Dale, I got an ad for this in my spam today and thought of you. Only $39 for the book, discounted of course from $100 lol. What's the lifesaving gadget, I wonder? Some good Bill Gates demonizing here too. Be well.
https://go.selfrely.com/infected?aff...020b6685ad8085
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What does the AAPS have to say about bleach injections?
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Maybe you have reading comprehension issues, Pete, but efficacy isn't spoken of in the title nor in the link I posted. It is speaking about how the FDA falsely disparaged Ivermectin implying that it was not approved for treating covid. Why would a trusted govt entity do that? I've posted many articles that you haven't commented on that proves, without a doubt, Ivermectin works, but of course, you have ignored those. One or 2 were even from some of your previous go to sources in Pubmed. But I assume you were mistaken to listen, believe in them the first time around and they are no longer are part of your preferred medical reading choices? Another dumb sheep that still believes and listens to MSM. Post up the vid of Trump telling people to inject bleach into their bodies. I'll wait...
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Wow Dale you're reading an awful lot into my posting a link to a book ad and saying I thought of you when I read the ad. LOLOL. Who said anything about the FDA or CDC or government or vaccine mandates?
As for ivermectin, this is from a June 2022 Cochrane review, is there somethng comparable that is newer? Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 Is ivermectin effective for COVID-19? Key messages We found no evidence to support the use of ivermectin for treating COVID-19 or preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection. The evidence base improved slightly in this update, but is still limited. It works "without a doubt" eh? As for my favorite sources, I don't think Science Based Medicine has dealt with this since earlier this year, but if they changed their view that would be meaningful to me as I am agnostic on the subject. Their last view was rather dim. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ive...19-treatments/
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I am agnostic on if it works or not. Early reports it worked from some doctors using it were instantly attacked by the press before any study was done at all, often using false and misleading claims (ignoring it is regularly prescribed to humans to label it solely horse dewormer, etc.) The other side then or simultaneously latched onto it almost immediately. I find it difficult to find a rational basis for either view in how they developed, simply a possibly helpful item being lauded or lambasted based on a political narrative from both without a real and honest appraisal. I am not endorsing the linked study, just providing what it is that has brought the issue up the last few weeks in the US and started to reach the mainstream. |
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That disinfectant knocks it out in a minute? Guess science didn't know Lysol kills bacteria like the one that causes covid 19. Glad they now know. Also, washing hands
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Washing hands is just what "they" want you to do, though!
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LOL, it's like saying I always lie.
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Ioannidis is a brilliant man IMO but he got out ahead of his skis early in the pandemic, downplaying it and predicting early herd immunity if I recall correctly.
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Exactly
I just read up on him a bit. From what I've found your assessment seems spot on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE No, he didn't tell people to inject bleach, he floated the idea of injecting disinfectants. Which is still...wow.
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I do not know if it works for Covid or not; each side discovers what it wants when looking at it. But this counter-narrative above, which is hardly unique and has been repeated for near 2 years now, is a complete and obvious provable fiction; the urge to disparage anything that does not originate from their political faction overcomes even easily proven fact to a great many people. |
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With so much at stake you would think we could just get an unbiased examination of whether this drug can be helpful or not. But no, we get all the bullshit of politics instead.
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Has CBD oil been touted as a cure for the virus yet, or only for every other condition known to humanity?
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I haven't heard that one yet, haha
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Hey a little weed will cure most things and a lot of weed keeps you safe from covid. It is a proven fact and not debatable.
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Also, don't forget - if you stare into your bathroom mirror and say "Dr. Fauci" three times, he will magically appear and try to vaccinate you.
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now that we are no longer in a pandemic why not less people sue like any other vaccine if there are issues with it. Havent the drug companies made enough money where they can pay some from the profits?
Are emergency rooms full? Why are people still losing jobs or under threat of losing status/position because of a choice... |
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The moral code of taking the vaccine now outweighs the health benefits. The narrative alludes that People should wear masks not to spread to thy neighbor, just like taking the vaccine, so they dont infect the high risk people.
There is almost a placebo effect. People scared to leave their homes for fear of covid, are now fine to get a shot that clearly shows they can still get sick, but might not be as bad. The vaccine was billed as a game changer, people didnt need to worry a bit getting covid anymore. They were walking out saying the felt better than ever and the shot must have boosted their immune systems against other things.
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Irv was specifically speaking of Covid, Rad was specifically speaking of Covid, and you veered into asserting that it DOES cure something, other than worms. Which it does not. It has topical applications to relieve symptoms, and some off-label uses to attempt to improve efficacy in conjunction with other treatments. Not a cure in sight. It does, like any other med, need to be studied for potential off-label benefits. Similar to Hydroxychloroquine (anti-inflammatory), and Viagra (pulmonary hypertension, lol)
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not exactly the whole score..does it track the suicides of kids who were prevented from going to school, what about the issues with learning and impact on life etc by party
also age plays a role and i admit i dont have any facts but i am guessing there are more younger democrats versus reps and the opposite with people in a nursing home.. If it was only about deaths, we can make cars safer that would protect tens of thousands of lives but there is a balance..... |
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If it was only about deaths, maybe we wouldn't allow countless millions of cigarettes to be sold each year, and take tobacco lobby money. Don't even get me started about hypocrisy.
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I mean people have a choice whether to smoke or not, but will get fired if they dont take an emergency vaccine. Vaccine or bread line, pretty silly
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The government seems very selective in terms of which lives, or which causes of death, it cares about.
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Just wondering as shots are coming back around..
also seems to be more evidence that people are getting sick from the shot and also deaths are increasing big time on people who took the shot(s)......(there goes the rep v dem narrative) Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-24-2022 at 06:15 PM. |
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I am a traditional liberal (which has been redefined the last few years in many quarters as "fascism", to my great amusement. To support free speech of all, a core liberal value, is now treated as a radical right-wing position for some reason), and I tend to find both sides living in echo chambers and feeding off the propaganda of their faction. I must say this element here was both bizarre and amusing to watch. So many of the even pro-socialists wing of the left came, at the drop of a dime, to believe in the righteousness of almost unlimited corporate power. Censorship by corporate was good, a company can do whatever it wants because it is not the state, big Pharma, an industry they specifically have been attacking for years (and in my personal opinion, generally correctly - my liberal values push me to be in favor of separating employment from healthcare and to believe that everyone should be able to live regardless of their fiscal status) became so imperative to the narrative that they were unquestionable. To even ask questions of Pfizer was, and still is in many leftist quarters, to be "anti-science". We had some of it here just a couple pages back. Whatever argument the narrative required was embraced, regardless of the blatant contradictions, of the absurdity to the entire rest of their ideology, to the abandonment of liberal values in favor of a state and corporate behemoths that needed to be (or were) empowered to do almost anything to shut down questioning, dissent, and any non-compliance to the will of the state and/or party.
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