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Old 06-20-2016, 08:39 AM
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I didn't know that saying they correctly graded one card made me a "PSA advocate." Now I know. Regardless, your card is a 2, and if you subbed it 10x it would never get higher than a 2.5 . Nevertheless, I love the card and would be proud to own it.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:51 AM
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I didn't know that saying they correctly graded one card made me a "PSA advocate." Now I know. Regardless, your card is a 2, and if you subbed it 10x it would never get higher than a 2.5 . Nevertheless, I love the card and would be proud to own it.
Ok then Dan, no worries. You aren't a PSA advocate. Thanks for the kind words about the card too. Let's just forget the part about creases and it will be all better. No way could a 3-4 have any. Just like it doesn't rate a 3.... No way. (unless we go by PSA's written quidelines)

I am sure Please Submit Again would love for it to be sent in 10 more times. That would be $800 in fees and about $250 in gouged shipping costs.
I have heard of people doing that. It's a great racket. My question is if PSA got it wrong then why are they charging to change a mistake? LMAO

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Old 06-20-2016, 08:57 AM
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There is probably a disparity between their written grading standards and how they really grade. Especially on a major card. According to the written word yes it could be a 3 but I would be surprised if they bumped it.
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Ok then Dan, no worries. You aren't a PSA advocate. Thanks for the kind words about the card too. Let's just forget the part about creases and it will be all better. No way could a 3-4 have any. Just like it doesn't rate a 3.... No way. (unless we go by PSA's written quidelines)

I am sure Please Submit Again would love for it to be sent in 10 more times. That would be $800 in fees and about $250 in gouged shipping costs.
I have heard of people doing that. It's a great racket. My question is if PSA got it wrong then why are they charging to change a mistake? LMAO

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I admit I misstated their stance on creases. Nevertheless, that doesn't change my opinion that the card is correctly graded. Just my opinion and I'll agree to disagree.
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I admit I misstated their stance on creases. Nevertheless, that doesn't change my opinion that the card is correctly graded. Just my opinion and I'll agree to disagree.
It's only cards and a conversation, no more and no less. I don't think PSA is a bad company. I would guess 80%-90% of the value of my card holdings are now in PSA holders (with rookies included). I just think they are way, way, way overrated. But too, I have to go with the perceived notion they are better, for buying and selling, as that is the game in the hobby so it seems. I will have to pay (and sell for) less, the other TPG companies holders in certain parts of the hobby. And I agree, we can politely agree to disagree. It's all good....take care
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would bring up the Wagner. Like I said before completely different regime at PSA now than back then. I do not hold the current SGC regime responsible for the fiascos graded during the Merkle period including that absolute joke of a Doyle and I do not blame Joe Orlando run PSA for the Rocchi regime and their misses.

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would bring up the Wagner. Like I said before completely different regime at PSA now than back then. I do not hold the current SGC regime responsible for the fiascos graded during the Merkle period including that absolute joke of a Doyle and I do not blame Joe Orlando run PSA for the Rocchi regime and their misses.
David Hall is and was on the scene though, no? And Wagner was pre-Rocchi.

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Doesn't pay attention to the grading unless hes submitting his own t206s. He is less envolved in the day to day at PSA than Dave at SGC (who generally stayed out of everything while I was there). Rocchi was there he may not have been President yet but he himself has told me he was there. He used to brag that he was their first employee hired

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