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Old 02-26-2023, 03:04 PM
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Definitely over-hyped, as most young players are these days.

Potential though to be a very good player.

He kind of choked in the Playoffs last year, but again he is young, so we'll see.

Griffey Jr was only 19 his first season, Rodriquez was 22. 3 year difference is pretty big. No way I compare him to Jr at this point.

But again he could/should be a very good player. Just over-hyped at the moment.
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Old 02-26-2023, 03:40 PM
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He’s a generational talent playing centerfield for Seattle. Why not talk about him in relation to Griffey?

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Old 02-26-2023, 03:47 PM
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He’s a generational talent playing centerfield for Seattle. Why not talk about him in relation to Griffey?
Because it's one year. We treat these guys like they're guaranteed careers like Griffey (and frankly you can buy Griffey rookies cheaper, but don't get me started) Let's say he turns out to be George Springer. That's great for the Mariners as Springer is a fine player, but when's the last time you saw anyone give a damn about his cards?

Don't make me hop in the wayback machine and bring up our disagreement of the value of Corey Dickerson
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Old 02-26-2023, 03:48 PM
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Who wasn’t hyped in your opinion? Meaning who did you hear about see play and think it was the real thing? If not Julio.

Griffey was a god before he was a MLB superstar too. There’s a reason he was the first card in 89 UD. He hit 264 that year. People had a feeling they knew what they were looking at though.

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Who wasn’t hyped in your opinion? Meaning who did you hear about see play and think it was the real thing? If not Julio.

Griffey was a god before he was a MLB superstar too. There’s a reason he was the first card in 89 UD. He hit 264 that year. People had a feeling they knew what they were looking at though.
greg jeffries, gary thurman, kevan maas , ben mcdonald, matt nokes...brien taylor........those guys occur a lot more than griffeys..

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greg jeffries, gary thurman, kevan maas , ben mcdonald, matt nokes...brien taylor........those guys occur a lot more than griffeys..
As do guys who end up with a nice career but not a HOF one. Strawberry, Gooden, Eric Davis, Canseco, Mattingly, I could go on.
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As do guys who end up with a nice career but not a HOF one. Strawberry, Gooden, Eric Davis, Canseco, Mattingly, I could go on.
the strawberry topps traded rookie was a biiiig deal, there is the new artificial scarcity now with the modern that was not present during the old days of boggs and gwynn days..
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greg jeffries, gary thurman, kevan maas , ben mcdonald, matt nokes...brien taylor........those guys occur a lot more than griffeys..
Yeah but I was asking who you think wasn’t hyped. What I’m getting at is whether or not it’s possible to be the next big thing without being criticized over expectations.
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Yeah but I was asking who you think wasn’t hyped. What I’m getting at is whether or not it’s possible to be the next big thing without being criticized over expectations.
not about criticized over expectations generally , the issue I have is I am critical of the prices being paid for these cards. Many of the potential great players get criticized as far as their future but the card prices are not nearly as high like Julio Rodriguez.

Lebron James certainly was worth all the hype...however what is the ratio and remember a lot of these hyped cards will end up being worth 99% less 5 years later than what they sell for in the first year

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Definitely over-hyped, as most young players are these days.

Potential though to be a very good player.

He kind of choked in the Playoffs last year, but again he is young, so we'll see.

Griffey Jr was only 19 his first season, Rodriquez was 22. 3 year difference is pretty big. No way I compare him to Jr at this point.

But again he could/should be a very good player. Just over-hyped at the moment.
So many come hyped and then flame out look at Gary Sanchez former Catcher Yankees and was supposed to be the next generation of catcher’s and instead he cannot even stay on the field because of his defense and strikes out way to much.

I hope Rodriquez succeeds but his season was good but agreed over hyped
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So many come hyped and then flame out look at Gary Sanchez former Catcher Yankees and was supposed to be the next generation of catcher’s and instead he cannot even stay on the field because of his defense and strikes out way to much.

I hope Rodriquez succeeds but his season was good but agreed over hyped
Its the potential thats the drug to the bidders but the bar is very very high , to meet the bar the first year is a little bit easier then the 2nd year......if no huge improvement the 2nd year, on to the next rookie, unless the player is 20 years old etc..
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