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Old 09-25-2012, 04:24 PM
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Default T206 ed walsh blue old mill sgc 30!

Already been discussed in a long thread from the national. I know this seller well and have done alot of deals with him in the past. I am convinced this card without a doubt is the real deal, and i am considering trying to structure a deal to purchase it. I know it's almost impossible, but i would really appreciate any thoughts or comments as to the estimated value. I have already spoken with dave, and we both agreed to post this.......thanks in advance
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:26 PM
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Some lunatic(s) will probably pay 50K+ for that thing!
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:34 PM
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Is it value protected via SGC? 10-20k.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:37 PM
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Well, someone paid $20k for a "only known example" of a Piedmont 350. So it needs to be at least $21K.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:57 PM
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Well, someone paid $20k for a "only known example" of a Piedmont 350. So it needs to be at least $21K.
yea. what was the deal with that. i saw that also...

any idea who that is or why someone paid that so much for it?

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The opening bid for the card in Heritage (now open) is $4500, so we shall see what happens here...
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:00 AM
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this blue old mill is back up at auctipon already?!?! got a link...i hate their web site!!!
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this blue old mill is back up at auctipon already?!?! got a link...i hate their web site!!!
http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7085&lotNo=80099
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:12 PM
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Seems like outing the deal here may not work out in your favor;
i.e. Bidding war
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:21 PM
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problem is...someone like me...who has no interest in the card will give an honest answer...whereas someone who's interested...like Kevin...would obviously prefer to hear low estimates?!
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:45 PM
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what does SMR say?
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:18 PM
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I should have known that posting this on net54 would be a 100%, no doubt about it, absolute waste of time..... I must admit, i was warned by a couple of people.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:18 PM
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If that card were offered in REA or another major auction, it's realistic to think it would bring at least $40,000-$50,000.
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problem is...someone like me...who has no interest in the card will give an honest answer...whereas someone who's interested...like Kevin...would obviously prefer to hear low estimates?!
Peter, I think your 1st post was an honest one, Really!
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Unless you've held a card in your hand and examined it in person it is simply impossible to give an educated opinion on whether it is a counterfeit. The skill level of the people on this board who've spoken up and at SGC who've seen the card in person is about as high as you can hope for in this hobby and if all of them are confident that the card is a genuine T206, then it is either the greatest forgery of all time--which I find it hard to believe would be anything but a Wagner--or genuine. I don't find that that inconceivable that in all of the thousands of sheets run for this set with dozens of backs in various colors that someone somewhere in the sequence ran a sheet with the wrong ink.

As for what it is and what it is worth, it is not a variation needed for a master set [which I define as an intended change by the mfg], it is an error card. It is worth whatever someone will pay for it. My SWAG is about $5,000-$10,000 but I could see a couple of well-heeled collectors beat each others' brains out for it and push it substantially higher.

I'd have taken the $30K in cash [provided it was actually cash] at the natty and gone on a spending spree...
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:48 PM
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For being a tough back and of a new color I think this will help give you an idea of value.
A regular old mil is worth about 1.25x premium.
Because it a blue I think that adds another 2x to the equation.

So what ever a SGC 30 Walsh goes for just times that by 2.5 and I think both of yall will come out with smiles on this deal.

This was a joke.

a 1of1 the only way to know is at auction I feel. Its the only one so its hard to price as nothing like it has sold

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Still no bid on it

http://www.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-b...l?itemid=51236
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:33 PM
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I would bet there is at least one bidder on the card. Especially after seeing some of the red hindu prices. I would imagine 15000 would be a bargain in some person's eyes.
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In response to g vezina c55,

Considering how some (many? most?) people on this board have questions about the authenticity of the blue backed Old Mill Walsh and then seeing as how Mastro has been recently reported as going to plead guilty for various things (including card doctoring?) could we assume that the people who have the money to afford this Walsh are gun shy in pulling the trigger on it?

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:06 PM
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i saw all the thread on the board about this Walsh card.

Perhaps you are corect in your reflexion about all the accusation about mastro, card doctoring etc...

I am impatient to see if anyone will bid on this card.

Personally i have no opinion about this card, i never see it in real and never holded in my hand so i can t have any real opinion.

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