Future HOFers

[the 'stache]

Kershaw is just going off right now.

In his last ten starts:

7-0, 0.90 ERA, 80 IP, 104 K's, 49 hits, 7 walks, 0.700 WHIP, 11.7 K's/9 IP, 14.9 K's per walk. 3 complete games, 2 shutouts.

With his 14th (of 15) strikeout tonight, he became the second left handed pitcher in history to strike out 250 hitters in under 200 innings. He's going for his 4th Cy Young in 5 years.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Kershaw is just going off right now.

In his last ten starts:

7-0, 0.90 ERA, 80 IP, 104 K's, 49 hits, 7 walks, 0.700 WHIP, 11.7 K's/9 IP, 14.9 K's per walk. 3 complete games, 2 shutouts.

With his 14th (of 15) strikeout tonight, he became the second left handed pitcher in history to strike out 250 hitters in under 200 innings. He's going for his 4th Cy Young in 5 years.

Meet me in St. Louis, Louis.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Meet me in St. Louis, Louis.

I'm a Brewers fan. Them be fighting words, Peter

First round is on me.

[Beatles Guy]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Kershaw is just going off right now.

In his last ten starts:

7-0, 0.90 ERA, 80 IP, 104 K's, 49 hits, 7 walks, 0.700 WHIP, 11.7 K's/9 IP, 14.9 K's per walk. 3 complete games, 2 shutouts.

With his 14th (of 15) strikeout tonight, he became the second left handed pitcher in history to strike out 250 hitters in under 200 innings. He's going for his 4th Cy Young in 5 years.

As a Cardinals fan, he doesn't scare me in the playoffs. I'd rather face him than Bumgarner. Heck, I'd rather face him than Greinke.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Beatles Guy

As a Cardinals fan, he doesn't scare me in the playoffs. I'd rather face him than Bumgarner. Heck, I'd rather face him than Greinke.

Yeah, no. I watched Greinke start three games in the post season for the Brewers. He gave up 12 earned runs in 16 2/3 IP for us.

Eventually, Kershaw is going to put it together in the post season.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Yeah, no. I watched Greinke start three games in the post season for the Brewers. He gave up 12 earned runs in 16 2/3 IP for us.

Eventually, Kershaw is going to put it together in the post season.

Or not. Maddux for all his greatness was 11-14 postseason. His ERA was respectable, and he only got hammered a couple of times, but he was not the same pitcher.

[Mrvintage]

Everyone wants to talk about the struggles Kershaw has had in the postseason. Like many other all-time greats it is only a matter of time before his greatness shows in the playoffs. It used to be the same thing with Peyton Manning and Lebron James.......

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Or not. Maddux for all his greatness was 11-14 postseason. His ERA was respectable, and he only got hammered a couple of times, but he was not the same pitcher.

Kershaw has started 8 post season games. He's had three bad starts, and five quality starts (four of which he went at least six innings, and gave up two runs or fewer). In 2013, through his first three starts of the post season, he had a 0.47 ERA with 23 K's in 18 IP. So, he was pitching quite well. Then the Cardinals blew him up.

He's had some real success, but those couple of awful starts skew his overall ERA terribly.

Koufax was simply phenomenal in the post season. He was only 4-3, but his ERA was 0.95, and his WHIP was 0.825 with 9.6 K's/9 IP. That's filthy.

[Mrvintage]

Keep in mind that we keep judging Kershaw against Koufax in this debate. It's not like you have to be as good or better than Koufax to get in the HOF.....LOL

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

Keep in mind that we keep judging Kershaw against Koufax in this debate. It's not like you have to be as good or better than Koufax to get in the HOF.....LOL

Yeah, Koufax was pretty special and, at his best, was absolutely spectacular. It looked like his curveball dropped two feet. Batters looked stupid. Blyleven threw a great curve, but all in all, I'll go with Koufax.

Kershaw is pretty special too. But he isn't Koufax, at least not yet IMO. And, as mentioned before, Koufax didn't fade in the big games which, as also mentioned before, is currently a fair criticism of Kershaw.