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Posted By: Mike
This afternoon, I got back about 30 items from PSA. Out of the 30 or so, two had the years wrong, and one was mislabeled and had the wrong card encapsulated within. I am more sick than anyone of the grading company bashing threads, but this really pees me off. The two that had the wrong years shown, have Jimmie Foxx wearing a Red Sox cap. But show the years as being from 1930. Unless Mr. Yawkey had a very secretive deal with Mr. Mack, I don't believe Jimmie was with the Red Sox in 1930. The other submission had the wrong card shown on the heading. I know I can resubmit them, and have them corrected, but is it so much to ask that they do their damn job correctly the first go round ? Should I have to examine every item that comes back to make sure it is done properly? Including the aforementioned, I have a couple others that PSA showed as the incorrect years. Or have mislabled names. So I have now have five things that I need to send back and have corrected. Any moron who has the slightest knowledge of Pre War items, would not have made these glaring erors. If there are any head shrinkers out there...thank you for listening....I will look for your invoices for my therapy session, in the mail. My guess is PSA will drive me to leap off a cliff. |
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Posted By: James Gallo
Well if your not happy go somewhere else. Just like anything else if more people left PSA because of this then they would try to address it instead of just throwing more grading your way. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...is the reason many of us have switched to SGC. Now, of course, SGC is run by humans and humans make mistakes, but by and large the service is quite excellent. |
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Posted By: leon
As most know I only use SGC for my personal stuff and rarely do anything with PSA. Recently I needed to get some cards graded and have the ones that wouldn't grade shipped back to me asap. I called SGC and viola they made it happen. I got the ungradable ones back on Saturday and the rest of them graded, will be back in a few days. I wouldn't even attempt to try that with PSA.....and SGC makes fewer mistakes, even relative to the lower amount they do, than PSA, imo...I did want to point out their service and give a little thanks to the guys at SGC...especially to Scott Hersh ...I try not to get on too many of these grading company threads otherwise....we've heard it all before....regards |
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Posted By: JimB
You do not give a lot of details here and I am sure they made mistakes, but I think it is a bit much to presume that they know what years Jimmie Foxx played for what teams. That is not their job. If you labelled the issue and year correctly on your invoice and they still screwed it up, or simply if they got it wrong on a type of card they grade, that is bad. But determining that they are useless because they don't know what team a player played on in 1930 is a bit over the top. What was the card and issue? |
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Posted By: Kyle
Were your grades posted online before you got the package? My last submission had an error and I called PSA immediately after I saw the results posted. They put a hold on shipping and the problem was fixed and shipped 2 days later. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Well the thing to do is quit having cards slabbed. |
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Posted By: Mike
I know leon, as I stated, I am tired of grading Threads as well. Thanks for allowing this one. I promise I won't do it again. But it helped to get it off my chest. In response to several comments, I use all three major graders, as well. Global and SGC. And true, I have not had as many problems with the last two mentioned. But..in this case I went to PSA. In response to a comment concerning an individual knowing whether or not Foxx was with the A's or the Red Sox. Doesn't any pre war collector know this? Or baseball expert? If a Ruth item showed him wearing a Boston Red Sox cap, and was dated 1927, wouldn't that raise a red flag? This is no different. Two of the items are from 36. They show them as 30. I wasn't looking for sympathy. I was just angry. If my scannerwould work correctly, I would show what i am talking about. maybe I will try and repair it. Anyway...thanks for listening. I won't use PSA any longer. |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
"The real reason cards get slabbed is because they sell better, because uneducated buyers don't have faith in truly knowing what they're buying, they need validation from someone else. If collectors would learn their stuff and buy unslabbed cards just as willingly as the slabbed, then the grading companies would go away." |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
So there is no excuse for that many errors. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Both PSA Magies on REA are likewise mis-labeled. |
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Posted By: jackgoodman
I've chimed in with this same comment before, because frankly, it continues to apply: Wouldn't simply having someone check the flip with the invoice and make sure they match (and if they don't - take whatever action is appropriate) before putting them into a shipping box aleviate most of these types of problems? It's called "quality control." And this can apply to any of the grading companies. |
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Posted By: Noel
By the sound of this, it would lead one to believe that anyone who buys a graded card is genuinely a bad person. Reminds me of a lot of the dealers i used to deal with in the 80's and 90's. Bitter because they could no longer get away with nm/mt prices for ex/mt cards. Graded cards put buyers and sellers on a level playing field. For me it is the only way to do business over the internet. I would have no problem paying someone to thoroughly inspect a vintage car or high priced item before i purchased it. Same principle applies. |
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Posted By: Mike
Yes, my submission slips were correct. My submissions were not mailed, to them, one of my friends is one of the top dealers in the country, and he took them with him to one of the last major shows. Sorry, don't recall which one. I buy many "raw" cards, because when I buy them, I already know what grade they are, or should be. I just bought one from leon and another from Jim Manos. I slab them because they are easier to store, transport, and show to people. I do public presentations, Rotary, schools, churches, etc, etc. of pre War items. I can pass them around the room. Or lay them down on a table, and people pick them up and look at them. I can always pull out the hacksaw and free them, if need be. But getting back to the issue at hand, regardless of what anyone thinks, 10% is way too high a percentage to be labled incorrectly. At least in my world it is. PSA's last effort is unexcusable. I will not use them again. |
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Posted By: Steve
I agree, PSA needs to do something regarding all these mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes but PSA is getting out of hand regarding mis;abeling the past year or so. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I truly think that a Professional grader should know what they're grading, even if the guy submitting it had it wrong. But it seems that the grading is done by folks who could do with further education (oh, I so wanted to type that they were uneducated). |
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Posted By: T206Collector
If you can trust a grading company, like SGC, then you never have to rely on the misstatements of ebay sellers in regards to condition. How could you possibly spend more than a few bucks on a piece of cardboard from 1910 over the internet without knowing from a third party what the grade is? Grading will only rise in use and popularity as long as the internet is in existence. Not only isn't it a necessary evil -- it's a necessary good in 21st Century collecting. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Frank: "Seems like what would happen if I got a divorce and married Julia Roberts, she lives in LA and I'm in Kentucky, we'd never see each other, a barrier between us, couldn't touch" |
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Posted By: barry arnold
i'm with you cmoking. |
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Posted By: Rick
The good thing is that you can take your money and spend it elsewhere. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I like to be able to pick up a card, to touch it, to see it laying in the palm of my hand, and think of the history of the card, the hobby, the sport. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I'm a big Double X fan, but I couldn't tell you what years he played for what teams. |
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Posted By: steve yawitz
PSA's shoddy quality control is a big problem and is one of the reasons I'm jumping ship after submitting to them and supporting them for the last 5 or 6 years. Sure clerical errors exist in every field, but we're paying PSA for their alleged expertise at identifying, authenticating and grading our cards. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
Most are completely graded by PSA AND SGC, and both companies committed horrors beyond your imaginings...over and undergrading--I do believe they got all the names right, except for the Black Sox World Series Ticket,, which they called game 3, but that's what it says on the ticket (each park printed tickets for only their own park, so both Cincinatti and the White Sox had a "gane 3" ticket (the White Sox' I own actually being game 5)..but that's pretty deep for PSA. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Amen, Julie. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I'm curious....what does Lloyd Bentsen have to do with all this ? |
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Posted By: barry arnold
hi trex! |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Dan Quayle was quick witted he would have responded to Bentsen's remark.... |
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Posted By: barry arnold
clever retort, trex. |
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