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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: Joe D.
I thought I would pass this along... just in case it helps someone else. |
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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: James Gallo
This is a pretty well known scam. They payment they send is either fake or from a stolen card. You end up sending product and a while later get a chargeback or something similar. |
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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: Lee
This is a typical scam, I don't exactly know how it works, but it has been offered to me as well. I turned them down of course, I hope I'm a bit smarter than to fall for a ploy like this, but many people do fall for it. Like you, something just did not feel right about it. For me, it was over a very expensive paintball gun, I used to play paintball semi-professionally. I think it is a way of laudring money because you cash their money and it makes the money harder to trace. I bet they do it over and over until the money disappears. |
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Posted By: Steve M.
I think you can limit your buyer to USA only. That way at least you don't have to worry about overseas bidders. You can then state in your listing that any overseas (or Canadian)bidders can email you for permission to lift the ban and let them bid. I've done this with E in Canada and it works well. |
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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: Joe D.
Lee, |
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Posted By: Lee
You were right to steer clear of this Joe. Did he tell you how much he was going to send you? The guy that was going to scam me if i gave him the chance was trying to send me $2500 for a $700 item. He persistance also shows that this is a scam. As you know, once eBay cancels membership, the persons contracts are null I think. I doubt the exchange rate excuse because he probably was going to send you a very large sum of money. I would guess money landuring. He gets the card from you and resells it = money effectively cleaned. In turn, you would have also cleaned the other money you send back to him somewhat, because it has been cashed and turned into another form (money order, different western union transfer, ect). Also there would be the factor that he could send youpounds or euros, and when you cash this, it would change the currency to an entirely different form of money, the dollar. |
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Posted By: David Smith
If the scammer is in England, why don't you just accept the money and keep it and your merchandise? Might teach the scammer a lesson.... |
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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: Joe D.
semi-pro paintball? |
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Posted By: Lee
Good point about keeping the money David. I would be afraid of any legal implications, though, to go through with it. Then it may become your job of spending the money secretly if the money was dirty. I would just not want any headache from the situation that I could easily avoid. |
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Posted By: David Smith
Lee, do you think a scam artist in England would have the balls to go to the authorities? I mean the money to you might seem big but if they are pulling the wool over a lot of people's eyes, the money is small potatoes to them and not worth the risk of getting caught. |
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Posted By: Lee
I never said they would go to the authorities, you interepreted this. I just think it would be stupid to get in the middle of it. Get the info from Joe, send them your info, and tell us how it comes out. |
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Posted By: Dylan
This scam actually isnt so much about laundering money but just taking your money. The idea is to send a check or MO(which is a well done fake, even heard of POSTAL money orders that looked perfect to the non-expert) which is well in excess of the amount of the item. Say you sold a $100 dollar item and they send you $2,000. Then a reason is given, bank issues, customs, etc. that they need someone from the states to deposit the money and then send the remainder, minus 5% or something for you to keep for you work. It will take a several days for the money order to be routed to the correct bank where it will be discovered as a fake. By that you already sent the $1,900 (minus your little cut) and you are now responsible to make up that money to the bank. You dont even need to sell anything to do this scam. An email can be sent out saying, need a job, all you do is cash checks... For a while it will run honestly you cash the check (here is a situation where you actually are laundering money and then get ripped off later)send them the money and you get a cut. But they get your account info through this and a couple months later, or longer if they need you to launder money for a while, they drain you of every dollar you have. So its a laundering, bank fraud operation. Different from the ebay scam in some ways but very simaler too. According to CIA Its mostly run out of Africa (Nigeria) and ex-soviet nations with Ex-KGB agents pulling the strings. Its a multi-multi millon dollar scheme, be careful, and never send cash from a MO, check to someone you dont know for any reason whatsoever! |
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Posted By: jason
Don’t stop opening your auctions overseas. We are not all scam artists. I live in England and know several other genuine vintage baseball collectors over here who buy off E-bay regularly. It provides us with one of the few access points to the hobby we love! |
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eBay Auction Problem
Posted By: Joe D.
if you ever see any of my auctions on eBay (bijoem).... feel free to bid on them even if you are outside of the US. |
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