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Old 10-30-2023, 12:43 PM
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Just when I thought it was safe to try the PWCC water again, I got crushed. Since they are under new ownership and with the B&B twins now departed counting their money, I have tried them a few times on their weekly Sunday auctions. So I bid on a few items last night and was leading when I went to bed. Today, I didn't check my email until early this afternoon and saw I had won something. But quickly following were 2 more emails telling me that I was henceforth barred from bidding in any future auctions for lack of payment, about 12 hours after the auction closed. This was after I was prohibited from bidding on their Premier auction because I didn't want them to see my bank statement or brokerage account.
I have never, repeat never have ever had a payment issue with any AH going back more years than I care to count. And now this. Being pissed off is an understatement. I am personally insulted.
Of course, I sent them back a 50 megaton response, mentioning that I will detail this affront on the Net54 Board.
Some lessons are hard learned, but enough is enough. I am truly through with these clowns. And I asked them to send my items in their vault asap. We will see if there is a response or not.
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Old 10-30-2023, 01:08 PM
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Yoda....you can bypass your bank statements or brokerage accouunts.
As detailed in the last few post, I was told, (and i did)---use recent invoices, showing paid and send that to them as proof.
Heres the link: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=338205
It took a few responses back n forth, but i did get approved for Premier auctions.

As for the lack of payment....after 12 hours.
Yeah my shows still pending....but i sent a response after i sent a 2day priorty enevolpe with a check to them.
That was the Oct 22auction, Said payment due by the 27th.
Check was delievered on the 25th.
Still have not seen a update. Guess they waiting 7 days for it to clear.
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Old 10-30-2023, 01:08 PM
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Not that I would even remotely encourage this from an AH, but at least a sliver of me could understand an AH at least sending a email reminder after the 12H mark after an auction (well 24H at a minimum, really).

BUT BARRING YOU FROM ANY FUTURE TRANSACTIONS seems draconian at best and criminal at worst.

If you have some money and a bit of time, you might wish to SUE them, but thank you for the heads up, and sorry about your experiences!
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Old 10-30-2023, 01:14 PM
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THIS time I really mean it.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=334797

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=339913

Give them up already!!
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What a great business they are running over there.
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100 percent. I see the same posts over and over, complaining about auctions houses fees, prices, shipping issues, payment verification, etc. And over and over, the same people are still bidding in these auctions.

This is why the auction house always wins.
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My correspondences have always been that I had 10 days to pay, that was with old ownership though, so this may be the new norm. Hope not, as I may be barred as well.
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100 percent. I see the same posts over and over, complaining about auctions houses fees, prices, shipping issues, payment verification, etc. And over and over, the same people are still bidding in these auctions.

This is why the auction house always wins.
Those auction houses keep having cards we want. It's not like we're hunting for 2023 Topps on here. Supply is short.
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:07 PM
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My guess is they'll come back and say that was a mistake, sorry for the inconvenience. There's no way they intend to do business like that, unless they're insane.
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Fool me once, shame on them. Fool me 357 times, well, I'm starting to become responsible.
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The bottom line is some people who think they're getting a deal on a card they want at an undervalued price will deal with whoever screwed them over before in the past If they think they're gonna win said card now at a steal deal now, they just will.

That's all it is. Everyone feels slighted and want some sympathy I guess… I’m just over it.

We all know who these guys are and I'd you deal with them expect you may get treated shitty.

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Twelve hours to pay? Their own payment terms say payment is due 7 days after invoicing. That's just so weird it has to be a glitch, so I'd not get all old man yelling at clouds over it. Did you try to call and talk to someone? Send Ken an email via the email address he published here?
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Old 10-30-2023, 03:39 PM
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Yes, I was going to ask OP for a follow up because it has to be some kind of glitch
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Old 10-30-2023, 04:27 PM
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Twelve hours to pay? Their own payment terms say payment is due 7 days after invoicing. That's just so weird it has to be a glitch, so I'd not get all old man yelling at clouds over it. Did you try to call and talk to someone? Send Ken an email via the email address he published here?
This is PWCC not Goldin.
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Old 10-30-2023, 06:36 PM
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Those auction houses keep having cards we want. It's not like we're hunting for 2023 Topps on here. Supply is short.
Agree but then don’t complain when you bid.
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I know, I know. Only gave them another try because of new ownership.
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Old 10-30-2023, 07:43 PM
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I know, I know. Only gave them another try because of new ownership.
They had the new ownership, with Brent gone, when you made your last post in September though.
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