new low for the ebay authenticity thing

[Peter_Spaeth]

So a guy has a BIN of 500 on a card, which was way too high. I make an offer in the 300s and he accepts. But because of his original price, a 300+ card now needs to go to the authenticator before it can come to me. Meanwhile it appears to me the program is definitely slowing down a bit, taking a day or maybe two more than originally.

[bnorth]

How dare those A-Holes do something to try to stop scammers if it takes a couple extra days.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

How dare those A-Holes do something to try to stop scammers if it takes a couple extra days.

It's useless for graded cards. The above card is graded.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's useless for graded cards.

Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?

I would like to know how many tampered slabs they have identified to date. My guess is zero.

[Jobu]

+1 -- some reporting on how much fraud they have prevented would be terrific.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would like to know how many tampered slabs they have identified to date. My guess is zero.

[LACardsGuy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?

They go to CSG, which does not know its A from its elbow. I just had THREE cards rejected as altered, when none were, and SGC graded them all with numerical grades. It is a nightmare for sellers. Fine for buyers, I guess, other than if cards get rejected them and they actually wanted them.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by LACardsGuy

They go to CSG, which does not know its A from its elbow. I just had THREE cards rejected as altered, when none were, and SGC graded them all with numerical grades. It is a nightmare for sellers. Fine for buyers, I guess, other than if cards get rejected them and they actually wanted them.

For some reason I thought raw cards went to CSG and graded went to PSA.

[philo98]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's useless for graded cards. The above card is graded.

I bought a PSA graded card on eBay for over $500 a few weeks ago and the card I bought didn’t go through eBay’s authentication process. It was mailed directly to me within a few days I had received it. I was under the impression anything graded over $500 would have to go through this new process.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by philo98

I bought a PSA graded card on eBay for over $500 a few weeks ago and the card I bought didn’t go through eBay’s authentication process. It was mailed directly to me within a few days I had received it. I was under the impression anything graded over $500 would have to go through this new process.

I had this happen to me as well apparently there are some ““ buzz words that if put in the listing disqualify the service from being used such as set break which makes no sense to me?

[G1911]

eBay has been going downhill for awhile, but it's turning into a dumpster fire lately.

[philo98]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I had this happen to me as well apparently there are some ““ buzz words that if put in the listing disqualify the service from being used such as set break which makes no sense to me?

Going back to the eBay listing, I do see the term “set break” listed in the title. Yeah, makes no sense to me as well.

[Aj-hman]

Just worked a deal with an eBay seller and had him put, “set break” in the title just so I wouldn’t have to wait for the cards.
I believe it should be a seller option and or buyers option to have the eBay authentication rather than the preset rules triggering the authentication. The the rules can stand but the seller gets to decide if should be authenticated to prevent returns and the buyers have the option if it is a suspect seller or card.

[Flintboy]

I was told by an eBay customer service representative that if the card is going to a PO Box, it will not go through the the authenticity guarantee process.

Originally Posted by philo98

I bought a PSA graded card on eBay for over $500 a few weeks ago and the card I bought didn’t go through eBay’s authentication process. It was mailed directly to me within a few days I had received it. I was under the impression anything graded over $500 would have to go through this new process.

[rjackson44]

Wait till they start grading the basketball star cards omg .

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

I was told by an eBay customer service representative that if the card is going to a PO Box, it will not go through the the authenticity guarantee process.

I wonder if this is true even though it doesn't make sense. I've purchased a couple of cards that didn't have all the "buzz" words like set break that qualify for having to go through the process and they were shipped directly to me.
I just received one earlier this week that had the authenticity guarantee with a generic listing of just the card and grade that was shipped directly to me in 4 days.
I did have a choice of sending it to the ebay vault and not having to pay sales tax.

Has anyone that have their cards shipped to a PO box had cards that had to go through the process?

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So a guy has a BIN of 500 on a card, which was way too high. I make an offer in the 300s and he accepts. But because of his original price, a 300+ card now needs to go to the authenticator before it can come to me. Meanwhile it appears to me the program is definitely slowing down a bit, taking a day or maybe two more than originally.

My card took 10 days to get to me. This was about 2 weeks ago. This card was raw & deemed authentic.

[Exhibitman]

I just got one back from PSA today.

Here's a quandary: how to scan it without destroying the baggie? The labels obscure a good portion of the back of the card. If I wanted to leave it in the sealed baggie (spoiler alert: I don't), I couldn't see part of the card, ever. So I guess if I want to rely on their service, I will never get to see the full card?

Also, the baggies are as baggy as board shorts, so for display they don't even look good.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I just got one back from PSA today.

Here's a quandary: how to scan it without destroying the baggie? The labels obscure a good portion of the back of the card. If I wanted to leave it in the sealed baggie (spoiler alert: I don't), I couldn't see part of the card, ever. So I guess if I want to rely on their service, I will never get to see the full card?

Also, the baggies are as baggy as board shorts, so for display they don't even look good.

I still want to know, if you now sell it in its authenticated kit, do you then have to ship it back to them again?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I still want to know, if you now sell it in its authenticated kit, do you then have to ship it back to them again?

Would you trust it? Someone could tamper with it and put a much worse card (or even worst, a fake one) in the package, then where would we be?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I just bought a newly graded modern card for $190 plus tax and it has to be shipped to the authenticator. SMH.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I just got one back from PSA today.

Here's a quandary: how to scan it without destroying the baggie? The labels obscure a good portion of the back of the card. If I wanted to leave it in the sealed baggie (spoiler alert: I don't), I couldn't see part of the card, ever. So I guess if I want to rely on their service, I will never get to see the full card?

Also, the baggies are as baggy as board shorts, so for display they don't even look good.

Hence the word, baggy, get it outta there

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

My card took 10 days to get to me. This was about 2 weeks ago. This card was raw & deemed authentic.

I can see the value of the raw review, if done right by qualified people.

[todeen]

I just bought a $600 raw card from Greg Morris on ebay. But it didn't need to be sent for authentication. Does GM have a deal with ebay to avoid this?

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[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by todeen

I just bought a $600 raw card from Greg Morris on ebay. But it didn't need to be sent for authentication. Does GM have a deal with ebay to avoid this?

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Often they auction things and use the phrase " Set Break" in the listing..... ?? possibly the new rule is only for single cards ?

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[Peter_Spaeth]

I would trust Greg Morris as much as CSG. Not that anyone is perfect.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would trust Greg Morris as much as CSG. Not that anyone is perfect.

….and with Greg Morris you have the liberty of holding it in your hand before you decide to keep it.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

….and with Greg Morris you have the liberty of holding it in your hand before you decide to keep it.

Awesome! The buy on approval approach. Love it. Anyway up until this AG program, in almost all instances a buyer had the right to return for a refund.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

Often they auction things and use the phrase " Set Break" in the listing..... ?? possibly the new rule is only for single cards ?

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I am told that all a seller has to do is use the magic words set break and the guarantee won't apply. What a joke.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by todeen

I just bought a $600 raw card from Greg Morris on ebay. But it didn't need to be sent for authentication. Does GM have a deal with ebay to avoid this?

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I could be wrong, but I believe that Greg Morris and perhaps one other well respected large seller had an exception from this program from the very beginning.

[GeoPoto]

This may be old news on this thread, but my first entanglement with authentication (graded) has taught me that combined shipping is not allowed. May be petty complaining about shipping of $350+ cards, but what a waste shipping multiple cards separately, instead of in one package. Good for USPS, I suppose.

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