T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[Bliggity]

I have always thought rarity referred to the number of cards in existence, while scarcity referred to the availability of the card. A rare card will probably always be scarce, but a scarce card does not necessarily have to be rare.

T209-1 is my favorite set, and was the first prewar set I completed. I think the pop numbers are somewhat inaccurate, as I recall seeing numerous examples of T209s getting cracked and reslabbed by different TPGs. Some of the cards are certainly tougher than others. Hoffman is probably the easiest, and Booles is probably the hardest. I think I've only seen 2 Booles cards come up for sale in the past seven years, and I bought one of them. So as Ted hinted, putting together the set will take some time and patience. But it is doable, especially because it's only 3% of the size of the Monster!

ETA: About seven years ago, I took substantial notes on the PSA and SGC pop reports for T209-1. At that time, there were 398 total cards slabbed by both companies. So that number has gone up by about 100 since then. The hardest card was Booles with 17 total examples, and the easiest was Hoffman with 38.

Here is my set:

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

I have always thought rarity referred to the number of cards in existence, while scarcity referred to the availability of the card. A rare card will probably always be scarce, but a scarce card does not necessarily have to be rare.

T209-1 is my favorite set, and was the first prewar set I completed. I think the pop numbers are somewhat inaccurate, as I recall seeing numerous examples of T209s getting cracked and reslabbed by different TPGs. Some of the cards are certainly tougher than others. Hoffman is probably the easiest, and Booles is probably the hardest. I think I've only seen 2 Booles cards come up for sale in the past seven years, and I bought one of them. So as Ted hinted, putting together the set will take some time and patience. But it is doable, especially because it's only 3% of the size of the Monster!

ETA: About seven years ago, I took substantial notes on the PSA and SGC pop reports for T209-1. At that time, there were 398 total cards slabbed by both companies. So that number has gone up by about 100 since then. The hardest card was Booles with 17 total examples, and the easiest was Hoffman with 38.

Here is my set:

Hi Dan

Very nice, thanks for displaying your set. I, too, am suspect of the pop report total of these cards. These T209-1 cards...."Don't Come Easy"....and, they don't come "CHEAP".
With respect to that latter comment....I suspect due to their high $$$$ value, many of these cards have been resubmitted, hoping for an increase in their $$$$ value.

Dan....do you also collect the T209-2 cards ?


TED Z

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[brianp-beme]

Here is my example from this set, Walsh, shown the day after a bar fight.

Brian (Not part of any TPG population report. My card probably spent a night in jail, whereas many of his brothers are doing 25 to life in their plastic prisons)

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

I have always thought rarity referred to the number of cards in existence, while scarcity referred to the availability of the card. A rare card will probably always be scarce, but a scarce card does not necessarily have to be rare.

T209-1 is my favorite set, and was the first prewar set I completed. I think the pop numbers are somewhat inaccurate, as I recall seeing numerous examples of T209s getting cracked and reslabbed by different TPGs. Some of the cards are certainly tougher than others. Hoffman is probably the easiest, and Booles is probably the hardest. I think I've only seen 2 Booles cards come up for sale in the past seven years, and I bought one of them. So as Ted hinted, putting together the set will take some time and patience. But it is doable, especially because it's only 3% of the size of the Monster!

ETA: About seven years ago, I took substantial notes on the PSA and SGC pop reports for T209-1. At that time, there were 398 total cards slabbed by both companies. So that number has gone up by about 100 since then. The hardest card was Booles with 17 total examples, and the easiest was Hoffman with 38.

Here is my set:

I'm not trying to start anything Dan but there have been 9 sales of 7 different Booles in the past two years.

Here's the 7 different Booles that sold

2-26-21
Booles 2-26-21.jpg

1-17-21
Booles 1-7-21.jpg

5-12-20
Booles 5-12 20.jpg

12-8-19
Booles 12-8-19.jpg

10-5-19
Booles 10-5-19.jpg

8-11-19
Booles 8-11-19.jpg

6-25-19
Booles 6-25-19.jpg

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I'm not trying to start anything Dan but there have been 9 sales of 7 different Booles in the past two years.

Wow! That's very surprising to me. I take it all back, T209-1 is an easy set to finish I know back a few years ago they were very hard to find, and I believe there was at least one person on here who was just missing Booles to complete their set.

Originally Posted by tedzan

Dan....do you also collect the T209-2 cards ?

Not yet. I've been thinking about it, but I do hope that someone will talk me out of it. As a completionist set collector, I don't need that kind of stress in my life!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Not yet. I've been thinking about it, but I do hope that someone will talk me out of it. As a completionist set collector, I don't need that kind of stress in my life!

Hi Dan

Years ago, I had about 80 of of the T209-2 cards. But like you, I've always been a set collector, and at any given time I am in the process of completing several sets.
So, it did not appeal to me to continue collecting T209-2 cards. After considering that it would have been a very, very long journey.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[ccre]

Hey Dan,

As you know I have the complete 1st series. If you are obsessed with completion, T209-2 is not for you. I have focused on just the North Carolina teams for several years now. There are 114 total and I only have 55. I haven't been able to add even 1 new one for many months although I am actively looking. Quite frustrating!

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Wow! That's very surprising to me. I take it all back, T209-1 is an easy set to finish I know back a few years ago they were very hard to find, and I believe there was at least one person on here who was just missing Booles to complete their set.



Not yet. I've been thinking about it, but I do hope that someone will talk me out of it. As a completionist set collector, I don't need that kind of stress in my life!

[skil55voy]

I don't have very many but, when I sold my original collection in 1986 I saved the cigarette cards that I had:

[tedzan]

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TUESDAY NITE TRIVIA

Name this T206 player. Here's a hint....in the 9th inning of a crucial game at the end of the season, the player of interest was at bat. He hit the ball very hard to Right Field.
The following controversial Umpire's call as to whether it was fair or foul resulted in his team losing the game and the Pennant.

And, his name is not Fred Merkle

The 1st guy with the correct answer will be rewarded with a T206 card. To quote Ringo Starr: "It Don't Come Easy". I'll be surprised if someone quickly identifies this player.

I look forward to your responses.


TED Z

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[king11]

Is it Ed Abbaticchio?

[brianp-beme]

It is interesting that 3 of the Booles Pat showed as well as my Walsh all have paper damage in basically the same spot on the bottom right border (yes, my Walsh also has a ton of other damage).

Probably just a coincidence, but thought I would point it out anyway.

Brian