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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: joe
I sent an email to SGC and they say they don't grade T3 Proof cards. Don't they grade other proofs? Anyway does PSA or GAI grade these?. I'm considering selling the proof and buyng a regular T3 of this player. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: Shawn Adkins
I submitted a T205 proof to SGC last weekend in Chicago. The guy behind the table also told me that they do not "grade" proofs anymore. I asked if it was possible to just slab the card as AUTH and was told that he would have to get that approved. Not sure why they have changed their policy on proof cards but I hope they can still be holdered. All my other proofs are in SGC holders and I have more that I would like to send in pending the outcome of this submission. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: JimB
I wish they would change the policy on this too. I have talked to Dave Foreman about this a couple of times in relation to a card I have and he has said they are considering it, but that no new policy has been made. He told me to check in periodically. I don't know if this is the issue with your T3, but mine is most likely hand cut and I think this is what is troublesome as far as issuing a numerical grade goes. I think that if they are grading hand-cut strip cards, why not hand-cut proofs. Perhaps they will change their minds soon. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: joe
I'm pretty sure mine is not handcut, I think the proofs were manufactured the same as the regular cards. So, does GAI or PSA grade these with a numerical number? If I do sell this card I want to get the most out of it. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: jay wolt
JOE - I've been searching for T3/T9's on eBay for a few years and |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: joe
Thanks for info Jay, I did contact PSA and GAI, no answers yet. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: davidcycleback
As proofs are often handcut and have printer's writing on them, a 1-10 grade may or may not be appropriate. For example, if the writing was put there by the printers as part of the proofing process, does the grader deduct grades for the writing? If the borders are unevenly handcut, how does the grader grade that? The uneven cut is an original part of the proof yet may be aesthetically deserving of a grade 1 Poor. If one gets a proof authenticated without grade, that should be sufficient-- and a learned collector would understand that a proof may not receive a 1-10 grade as it's a production item not a finished card. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)
I believe that all of the T3 proofs were hand cut. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: joe
Hello Harry, do you have documentation to show that all T3 Proofs are handcut, if so can you post the information. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: joseph
I have owned 3 T3 Proofs , all common players and they were not cut by hand. I also have seen other T3 Proofs and I would say they also were not cut by hand. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)
I believe that all of the T3 proofs were discovered at one time. I believe in the Detroit era. As far as I know, all are one of a kind. From my unerstanding, they were all hand cut. Maybe some were cut better than others. From the few that I have seen (Tik had a few), they were definitely hand cut. |
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grading T3 Baseball Proofs?
Posted By: davidcycleback
I tried to win the T3 Proof of Walter Johnson a number of years ago. Whether it was cut by hand or factory, the cut was straight and neat-- at least as far as I saw in the scan. A T3 proof cut doesn't have to be ragged. The Johnson had the tell tale crosses in the borders. |
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