Rick Probstein interviews Bill Mastro

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Eric72

You did read the part explaining that they listed the card again a short time later, yes?

I guess they "found" it.

The other listing probably just wasn't paid for. So they relisted it. After that buyer didn't pay, they probably didn't think to check to see if they happened to accidently dual list that card and see if you still wanted it. It's probably as simple as that. Dibble listed by accident. They canceled the second one (yours) and the original listing didn't get paid for, so it was relisted.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The other listing probably just wasn't paid for. So they relisted it. After that buyer didn't pay, they probably didn't think to check to see if they happened to accidently dual list that card and see if you still wanted it. It's probably as simple as that. Dibble listed by accident. They canceled the second one (yours) and the original listing didn't get paid for, so it was relisted.

LOL

The first one was mine, not the second. Chronologically:

1. I win auction
2. I pay
3. They don't ship
4. They relist

Timeline make sense?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

LOL

The first one was mine, not the second. Chronologically:

1. I win auction
2. I pay
3. They don't ship
4. They relist

Timeline make sense?

Whatever your facts, an innocent explanation can be constructed. Why waste your time.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Whatever your facts, an innocent explanation can be constructed. Why waste your time.

Exchanging words with a snowman has entertainment value at the moment.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Exchanging words with a snowman has entertainment value at the moment.

You are easily entertained my friend.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You are easily entertained my friend.

Quite. I embrace it, though. Simple things to amuse a simple mind.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Exchanging words with a snowman has entertainment value at the moment.

My favorite Bo Belinsky quote: "Never snow a snowman."

[samosa4u]

Thanks for uploading this.

Yeah, it was a bit annoying how Prob kept interrupting him, however, this wasn't some scripted interview or anything like that. It was a conversation between two card guys.

And like many of you on here said, Mastro paid his debt to society. Going to Federal prison is not a walk in the park. Who knows what he really went through while in there.

So, Mastro trimmed the Wagner and sold it for $110,000 USD? What about guys who have been trimming cards for ten or twenty-plus years and have made millions? What about the fraud going on in the other auction houses? Mastro gets locked up and all those other guys get to sit at home and count their money - makes sense.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Eric72

LOL

The first one was mine, not the second. Chronologically:

1. I win auction
2. I pay
3. They don't ship
4. They relist

Timeline make sense?

You mentored above that Probstein's initial response to you was that it was dual listed due to an "ebay glitch". Did you check to see if there were in fact 2 listings if this card at that time? This is the "first" listing I was referring to.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Whatever your facts, an innocent explanation can be constructed. Why waste your time.

Yes, I generally subscribe to Hanlon's razor - "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence".

[Peter_Spaeth]

Hanlon would have said no such thing if he knew the sportscards industry.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You mentored above that Probstein's initial response to you was that it was dual listed due to an "ebay glitch". Did you check to see if there were in fact 2 listings if this card at that time? This is the "first" listing I was referring to.

Yes, I checked multiple times. The first time was when researching comparable sales.

The card had sold roughly 3 months prior. There were no other listings (for that card with that cert #) on eBay between then and my winning bid.

That is why their response, which I copied-and-pasted in quotes earlier, stood out to me.