1954 All Star Photo pack questions

[whiteymet]

Hi Guys:

Can anyone provide info on the 1954 All Star Photo pack? I have seen at least three different checklists with differing numbers in the set set. 17, 20, 24.

AFAIK all of them have the players name in a small white box, however I see some that are on one or two of the checklists listed on ebay that the name is not in the white box.

Here for example is an Avila:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33482582271...Bk9SR96x5O7BYg

Another is this Garcia:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31461594320...Bk9SR-Sx5O7BYg

Are these from the set or rather an Indians team issue? Can anyone provide images of these two and Eddie Robinson from the All Star set? Or are there some without the name in the white box?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

[jethrod3]

My set had 17 with all the names in the white box. I did not have the Avila, Garcia or Eddie Robinson. Now I'm getting concerned that I didn't purchase the full set!!

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

My set had 17 with all the names in the white box. I did not have the Avila, Garcia or Eddie Robinson. Now I'm getting concerned that I didn't purchase the full set!!

My OLD SCD Standard catalog mistakenly shows them as 1956 ( not 1954) All Star Photo pack lists 17 WITH Avila and Garcia but not Eddie Robinson. Others are:

Boone, Campy, Dark, Kuenn, Mathews, Mays, Minoso, Musial, Newcombe, Reynolds, Roberts, J. Robinson, Schoendienst, Snider and Williams.

Here is a Lelands listing that says there are 30 in the set:

https://lelands.com/bids/1954-all-star-game-photo-pack

What 17 are in your pack?

[raulus]

Not that it’s particularly meaningful, but the good folks at PSA do seem to view some of these as being from a separate set, listed as the Indians photo pack.

They also seem to have the player’s name in script rather than typed in a little white box.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

My OLD SCD Standard catalog mistakenly shows them as 1956 ( not 1954) All Star Photo pack lists 17 WITH Avila and Garcia but not Eddie Robinson. Others are:

Boone, Campy, Dark, Kuenn, Mathews, Mays, Minoso, Musial, Newcombe, Reynolds, Roberts, J. Robinson, Schoendienst, Snider and Williams.

Here is a Lelands listing that says there are 30 in the set:

https://lelands.com/bids/1954-all-star-game-photo-pack

What 17 are in your pack?

My 17 are: Kuenn, Snider, Kiner, Mathews, Boone, Reynolds, Kluzewski, Roberts, Minoso, Schoendist, Dark, Mays, Musial, Berra, Jackie Robinson, Mantle and Williams. I have the envelope too, and I doubt that they could fit another 13 photos into it without causing damage. Mine are all pretty nice with sharp corners though a few of them have the diffuse dark printer splotches on the back that always seem to cause the grades to be pretty low.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

My 17 are: Kuenn, Snider, Kiner, Mathews, Boone, Reynolds, Kluzewski, Roberts, Minoso, Schoendist, Dark, Mays, Musial, Berra, Jackie Robinson, Mantle and Williams.

Sorry, I missed one that was doubled up in a top loader with another player. I also have Campy, so that makes the total number, that I received with the 1954 All Star envelope, to 18. I do not have a Kaline or Banks.

in my 2008 Standard Catalog, the complete set is listed as 24 and the aforementioned Indians players are listed in there with all 24 having the names in the boxes.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

Sorry, I missed one that was doubled up in a top loader with another player. I also have Campy, so that makes the total number, that I received with the 1954 All Star envelope, to 18. I do not have a Kaline or Banks.

in my 2008 Standard Catalog, the complete set is listed as 24 and the aforementioned Indians players are listed in there with all 24 having the names in the boxes.

So. does anyone have any of the Indians like Avila or Garcia with their names in the white box? If so please show here.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

My 17 are: Kuenn, Snider, Kiner, Mathews, Boone, Reynolds, Kluzewski, Roberts, Minoso, Schoendist, Dark, Mays, Musial, Berra, Jackie Robinson, Mantle and Williams. I have the envelope too, and I doubt that they could fit another 13 photos into it without causing damage. Mine are all pretty nice with sharp corners though a few of them have the diffuse dark printer splotches on the back that always seem to cause the grades to be pretty low.

Just went back and looked at my list. I have 18 total. Basically your 17 plus Campanella.

[sb1]

So if we tally up the confirmed in the threads we are up to twenty-one.

Ernie Banks, Yogi Berra, Ray Boone, Roy Campanella, Al Dark, Al Kaline, Ted Kluszewski, Harvey Kuenn, Mickey Mantle, Ed Mathews, Willie Mays, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial, Don Newcombe, Allie Reynolds, Robin Roberts, Jackie Robinson, Al Schoendienst, Herb Score, Duke Snider and Ted Williams.

I don't collect these, just buy and sell, but I don't think I have sold anyone else not on this list.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just went back and looked at my list. I have 18 total. Basically your 17 plus Campanella.

In a later post I mentioned that I'd overlooked the Campy in my count, so I had 18 as well.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

My OLD SCD Standard catalog mistakenly shows them as 1956 ( not 1954) All Star Photo pack lists 17 WITH Avila and Garcia but not Eddie Robinson. Others are:
Boone, Campy, Dark, Kuenn, Mathews, Mays, Minoso, Musial, Newcombe, Reynolds, Roberts, J. Robinson, Schoendienst, Snider and Williams.
Here is a Lelands listing that says there are 30 in the set:
https://lelands.com/bids/1954-all-star-game-photo-pack

Yeah, that auction listing is incorrect for 1954 because it includes Lumpe, and per Baseball Reference, he did not start playing until 1956.

[bobw]

I think the Garcia, Avila and Rosen photos are from the Indians team issued photo packs......Went through my big stack of assorted Cleveland Indians picture pack photos and found these 5.

The seller of the Garcia on ebay also listed Bob Hooper and Wally Westlake as "1954 Cleveland Indians All-Star Photo Pack" photos but they are just from team issued picture packs

[Jay Wolt]

Years ago I won a near set at auction & had SGC slab them
Here's a scan of the envelope that they came in

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

My OLD SCD Standard catalog mistakenly shows them as 1956 ( not 1954) All Star Photo pack lists 17 WITH Avila and Garcia but not Eddie Robinson. Others are:

Boone, Campy, Dark, Kuenn, Mathews, Mays, Minoso, Musial, Newcombe, Reynolds, Roberts, J. Robinson, Schoendienst, Snider and Williams.

Here is a Lelands listing that says there are 30 in the set:

https://lelands.com/bids/1954-all-star-game-photo-pack

What 17 are in your pack?

This Leland listing is definitely in error. They include 14 Yankees as part of the All-Star set and we all know 14 Yankees were not part of the 1954 All-Star team. In addition, there is a 1956 Yankees team set that includes those 14 players plus 9 others (for a total of 23 photos). I think this is where the Yankee photos in the Leland auction are from. I also wonder about the other photos included in the Leland auction referenced above. And the reason for this is because the size of my 1956 Yankee photo set Mantle is different from the size of the 1954 All-Star Mantle that I have.

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The All-Star photo is on the right. So, either my All-Star photo is trimmed (which unfortunately is a possibility), or the All-Star photos are slightly smaller than the Yankee set photos. If the All-Star photos are smaller and if all of the photos in the Leland auction were the same size, then none of them could be All-Star photos. I can't put my hands on my Mantle All-Star photo, but the Yankee photo set Mantle is 8-7/8" tall by 6-1/8" wide. What size do you have for your All-Star photos?

For what it's worth, which probably isn't much, PSA lists 20 players as part of the 1954 All-Star set - Ernie Banks, Larry "Yogi" Berra, Ray Boone, Roy Campanella, Alvin Dark, Al Kaline, Ralph Kiner, Ted Kluszewski, Harvey Kuenn, Mickey Mantle, Ed Mathews, Willie Mays, Orestes Minoso, Stan Musial, Allie Reynolds, Robin Roberts, Jackie Robinson, Al Schoendienst, Duke Snider, and Ted Williams.

[raulus]

Here is my Mantle, assuming PSA didn’t mistake it.

Hard to compare it to the borders above. Almost seems like it’s halfway between the borders from the two examples provided.