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There is a lot of information available to you about the role of plastics, plastics manufacturing and plastics in the ocean and their relation to climate change. These articles would be a better source. You can choose the one you trust.
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If the left really cared about climate change, instead of lining their pockets, they would reduce the population. That is the only way the world will survive. No koom-by-ah, no green energy , no vegan living is going to stop 8 BILLION, that's 8,000,000,000 people from destroying the earth. There is no enough resources, and certainly not enough organic, non processed hippie dippy granola to sustain the population. They need the votes to keep themselves employed, so you wont see this mentioned anywhere. Aside from likely some conspiracy websites
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Again, in you own words, tell me how this has anything to do with global warming and why we should all be paying a carbon tax to fight it? Greg is 100% right in saying our plastic waste is being outsourced to these 3rd world countries. Why do you suppose that isn't being talked about or shown on MSM?
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Boyan Slat on the other hand I have seen a lot of and he was/is part of Adadis making shoes out of the plastic being recycled. As a Nike fan I know they are also making shoes out of the recycled material but do not know if Boyan is part of that project. Boyan was also on Joe Rogan. |
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Who is putting the vast majority of plastics into the ocean? It isn’t the pick up truck driving church going gun loving Orange Menace voting Deplorables.
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NEW: Attorney General Eric Schmitt testifies that his lawsuit, along with the Twitter Files, revealed a massive coordinated effort by Federal Agencies and the Biden Administration to effectively coerce social media companies to censor American citizens.
https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay_/st...Cx_bmj8MctAAAA
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Never said increasing, I said they won't acknowledge what is causing the lack of resources. That would make people feel good inside. They could brand as some save the planet and let your neighbor live their life campaign. Republicans might need the labor force? Just a guess. I'd have to assume they are just follow some old timey religion...trying to keep some out dated voters. It never made sense to me why else anyone would be against freedom of choice.
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true choice means no consequences...you can vote for whoever you want and you dont risk travel or losing your job....taking or not taking the vaccine was not true choice Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 07:04 AM. |
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What I find funny is you and a few others have zero to say about Fauci, your corrupt govt, the censorship, the lies and the complicity of social media, MSM, the CDC, the FDA, the FBI, the DOJ, etc, in all of this.
People's lives were destroyed, people died unnecessarily, people were forced into taking the vaccines, doing things against their wishes but nary a word about any of that from any of you. And the fact they are still pushing these vaccines on the people and continuing to lie right to your faces,,,,, crickets, nothing but crickets, but OMG, look over there, it's a climate crisis, or any other drummed up Democratic lie. You know when the brainwashing and reconditioning is complete when you no longer believe your own eyes and ears and have nothing to say about any of that.
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Life is full of choices, those choices all have consequences. Adding all your 3rd grade if's and but's don't mean it is not a choice. |
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You are rendering the definition of the word "choice" meaningless. It's like saying I have the choice to murder 5 people...... if I'm willing to spend the rest of my natural life in prison and then burn in hell.
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People had the choice not to take the “vaccine” - or be fired and unemployable elsewhere.
People have the choice to get an abortion - by traveling out of state or committing a crime. In a sense every single action ever taken in the history of humanity is a choice - no matter how bleak you can always make a different choice. Of course laws, violence, pressure and economic devastation are handy tools to ensure only one choice is actually viable. I liked when the left was AGAINST big corporate dictating intimate and personal decisions and making them for you. That disappeared with the snap of a finger. |
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If the vaccine wasn't a choice please name one person that was held down and forced to take it. I know I have not heard of anyone physically being forced to take it. |
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That part makes your original argument pointless though - if it is still a choice when coerced then we don’t really have have much of a meaningful choice. If threats and punishment to dictate a choice is acceptable, because one can still respond with defiance and suffer the consequences, then there’s no boundary at all. A state run on a coercion is choice philosophy is totalitarian.
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https://earth.org/data_visualization...istory-of-co2/ According to the link, the last time the CO2 level was as high as it is today (around 400 ppm) was around 20 million years ago. The temperature at that time is estimated to have been around 6 to 8 C warmer than the 1960-1990 average. In regards to the MWP, here's a link: https://skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm "Overall, our conclusions are: a) Globally temperatures are warmer than they have been during the last 2,000 years, and b) the causes of Medieval warming are not the same as those causing late 20th century warming."
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I'm forced by the government to drive below certain speeds or face the consequence. I'm forced by the government to not drive after drinking copious amounts of alcohol or face the consequence. I'm forced by the government to pay for stuff at stores or face the consequence. I'm forced by the government to pay taxes or face the consequence. Etc. Etc.
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most people would agree there were major consequences if you did not take the vaccine that you could not sue if you got sick..... and yes, there should be major rational consequences for some choices..you can choose to do a crime but you go to jail....but you were not steered to doing the crime.. people were steered to having the shot and if not there were consequences.. saying you had a choice is trolling......we always have a 'choice' in anything in life in terms of deciding options... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 01:15 PM. |
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so being held down and forced to take it is your definition of no choice....losing your job and pension potentially is a TOTALLY free choice, people NEVER make 'choices' to protect their family even though normally they would choose to go another way if not for their family.... you know some rape victims were told since not held down they had a choice...after all they were not held down.....even though they may of been threatened to lose their job (if was an employer) which may prevent them for supporting their kids etc.. the difference here is at least rape victims could Sue.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 01:20 PM. |
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answer or troll....we shall see......i edit posts pretty quickly..not sure what you getting at...if you live on the keyboard maybe you respond before any edits...thats your 'choice'.
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i like how you dont address the premise, guess you out of luck unless wish to argue there was choice in both of those situations since not held down.. EDited by adding the word 'in'.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 01:28 PM. |
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I also can come up with many more examples of not being forced down but having no choice, you were the one that brought in the physical element in play for not having a choice 'being forced down' etc. I would argue thats a flawed argument and you are afraid to defend it even with a troll post.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 02:00 PM. |
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See guys I just showed you a choice. A horrible choice by interacting with Jake that I truly apologize for you all having to read it but a choice none the less.
I do believe there are things in life that we truly do not have a choice in but getting the vaccine is/was not one of them. I do get what you all say about losing your job for not getting the vaccine as my wife had to make that choice. |
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plus, all the factors were not the same for everyone..some had less choice then others..the fact is this burden was placed on EVERYONE, thus i would argue for large amount of people they had no real choice.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-31-2023 at 02:34 PM. |
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No. Your posted argument that, because a person can choose to suffer the consequences or break the law, there was a choice and thus it is acceptable justifies every single action in history. If the use of punishment, force, and severe consequence does not eliminate choice (by which everyone else means realistic choices), than every atrocity in history passes your test.
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Luckily I have a job where I didn’t have to get the damned thing, if my choice was get the jab or jabs or get fired I would have gotten the bare minimum of jabs.
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You must be the exception because from this forum you would think it was jab or loss of job or prison. Meanwhile the vast majority of posters seem to not have gotten jabbed and with the exception of a few that died from covid seem to be doing just fine.
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The minimum amount of jabs was the choice my wife made. For her it was the vaccine and one booster. The company she works for works with the mentally/physically challenged. It was a company wide thing as she works in the main office for the company and never sees any of their clients.
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https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/10479...0many%20states. I think we have exhausted the issue of 'choice' on this.....there are choices and there are CHOICES, however what was unique was that you could also not sue even in this forced choice scenerio and there was a denial of natural immunity and who knows what else. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 04-01-2023 at 07:23 AM. |
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What they did are crimes against humanity but you seem to be OK with that?
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/28/covi...vey-shows.html also you head is in the sand if you dont think we have an employment problem with jobs to fill because of mass resignations....its one of the reasons for inflation, of course its not all covid shot mandate related, but you cant deny its a factor and the lack of finding employees is a HUGE issue.. its more than 1 percent problem. Yes, people can come back to jobs now but things happen in life and things always dont go back in reverse after major changes in life.....harm is still being felt https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/01/roug...last-year.html 47 million quit their jobs last year. (im sure it was all totally free choice for all of them)... how many more were fired as well.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 04-01-2023 at 07:59 AM. |
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Now the issue you raised, is forcing people to get the covid vaccine (which Ben and Carter have shown is not even true) a totalitarian move? If people were forced to get the vaccine, what would be the purpose? To save lives perhaps? To reduce the number of people requiring hospitalization? For the greater good of society? Wouldn't that make it acceptable? To me it would. Yet, you want to label it as totalitarian. Just like some people might label the speed limit laws. Troll on.
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Abortions have been available for a long time. So yeah, that choice has been around for a long time. Unfortunately, since they were illegal, they were not necessarily easily accessible and they were not always performed by qualified people in sanitary conditions. Many times they resulted in the death or injuring of the woman. To me, the concept of "pro-choice" is to have safe, legal, easily accessible abortions available for any woman who wants to go that route.
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