T209-1; Player first names?

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Posted By: Ed Ivey

I'm trying to learn more about these 16 men. Does anyone have a partial or full list of player first names? Thanks.

edivey@verizon.net

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Posted By: Seth B.

Here are the names that I have listed complete, though some (David Crockett or Dan McGeehan) sound too good to be true:
Chris Sisson
Daniel McGeehan
David Crockett
Charles Stubbe
H.H. Hoffman
John Cooper
John Cowell
Joseph Walsh

This is a fantastic set, much harder than you think to complete. Still the only set I'm really working on.

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Posted By: Ed Ivey

Thank you, Seth! It's nice to be able to put full names to the pictures. I had previously run the name Crockett through a major league search engine, yielding "Davey", who apparently had a one-month career in the bigs in 1901. Since he was born in Roanoke and died in Charlottesville, I figured it might be the one.

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Posted By: Seth B.

No problem, Ed. I thought "Davey Crockett" was just too good to be true, along with "Triple H" Hoffman, but that's the closest I can get. Crockett's card is really one of the dumpiest, most southern looking baseball cards I've ever seen. I'm surprised he doesn't have the dixie flag on his belt buckle:


I know some people on this board know a whole lot more about this set than I do (there are a pair of really cool postcard proofs that belong to a regular poster that you can probably find if you search for older postings about the set), but I've tracked these things for a few years and now have 9 of the 16 cards with a few doubles. You're welcome to e-mail me if you want to chat more.

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Posted By: Rhys Yeakley

I actually have 2 handwritten letters from Davey Crocket (the ballplayer) and another 50-60 scorecards and letters from players in this set that came from the estate of a player who JUST missed the T209 set somehow. He also played against Joe Jackson at Greenville. When I dig the letters out I will scan the Crocketts. He died in 1961 but I think the two I have are the lone signatures in the hobby. His English skills lead me to believe there is a reason he was not a prolific writer! Appearantly the Rocky Mount team was owned by some doctors who had a drug store etc. It is a fascinating league that very little is actually known about.

Rhys Yeakley

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Posted By: Seth B.

Rhys- Thanks for the info, I would love to see scans of those letters. What do the scorecards look like, and when do they date to?

The T209 sets I and II are definitely prime for an OC magazine article. People on this board have done some really impressive digging about these cards and the early Carolina association and leagues.

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Posted By: Tom Hufford

Here's what I have on the T209-1 boys:

Charles Armstrong - from NY state
_______ Booles - Perhaps Seabron J. "Red" Booles, who was with Toledo, Shreveport and Cleveland in 1909 and Shreveport in 1910??
_______ Bourquise - listed in BB guides as D.L. Bourquir (1908 Danville, VA and as Bourquin (1909 Rocky Mount)
John H. Cooper
John W. Cowell
Daniel Solomon Crockett - birth name was Daniel Solomon, but like everyone named Crockett, his nickname was Davey. Ran a newsstand in a Roanoke, VA hotel for many years
Phifer "Fie" Fullenwider - b. 12-13-1886 Salisbury, NC d. 6-15-1982 Durham, NC - possibly the longest-lived on the T209ers
Hub Gilmore
H.H. Hoffman
J.J. Lane
P.L. Martin - shortstop from Wofford College, SC
Daniel D. McGeehan - with SL Cardinals 1911; d. 7-12-1955 Hazelton, PA
Ashley F. Pope - b. 12-22-1889 Hartnett Co., NC
Charles A. Sisson - probably the Charles A. Sisson b. 5-9-1888 Ft. Dodge, IA who married Louise Sergeant in Greensboro, had son Charles Jr.; was salesman/manager of Armour Co. in Greensboro; in NYC 1930
Charles Stubbe
Martin or Joseph Walsh - Joseph Francis Walsh was a catcher with Greensboro in 1908-09; Martin Walsh (Big Ed's brother) was a pitcher with Greensboro 1908, Danville 1909, OF Greensboro 1909, and p Norfolk 10; don't know which one is on the card.

Obviously, more work to be done......

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Posted By: Ed Ivey

This is all great stuff guys - a research foundation to which I hope to add. Thank you all for responding. Rhys, I too would love to see scans of Davey's letters. For me, the relative obscurity of these players makes it all the more fascinating to learn about them.

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Posted By: Vincent

. . . . as an interested party who would love to see what the rare signature of former Detroit Tigers Daniel "Davy" Crockett looks like.


That's probably about as close as I am going to come to acquiring one. But then, I thought the same thing about acquiring a Wish Egan signed letter too. Nine months later and I can say that I've added seven to my collection. So I guess, never say never. Regardless, I'd love you see your Crockett examples.


Many thanks.