Black Swamp Find?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mklitzke

Hey All,

So I have the "Hans" Wagner card in orange and the Johnny Evers card in green from the E98 set.... We found them when clearing out my great-grandfather's attic in 1990. I've never really know what they were worth. They are not in mint condition, but there is very little discoloration on the white border and they still have crisp corners. Do you think they'll be worth much after this influx of cards from the Black Swamp Find...?

Thanks!

Yes they will definitely still have good value but it is sort of hard to say where all of this is going to put the other cards already in the hobby. No doubt that red ones already in the hobby will take bit of a hit, with so many high grades ones being found. It's hard to fathom they wouldn't come down some. Other colors, it's just too hard to say right now. Would love to see scans of them too.

[ScottR81]

I posted this days ago and it got moved to watercooler talk???

[mklitzke]

I'll see if I can get some scans up in the next few days... they've been packed away for a while so I've gotta dig em out

[barrysloate]

I would be interested to know what percentage of the collection Heritage plans to sell privately. If nearly all are sold privately, and only a small group reaches auction, then prices might actually remain pretty strong. The fewer sold publicly, the greater the demand for the remaining ones.

I think for those collectors who want to make a serious investment in these, it's probably pretty tough to figure out what they're worth. I guess it's going to take some time for the market on these to stabilize, and I would expect some volatility early on.

[theuclakid]

it is my opinion that the high end ones will fly away fast....there are so many collectors with deep pockets, maybe some more active than others, but they will want to add these gems to their already staggering portfolios....and to have at least one for bragging rights...this is only common sense....Barry, are you adding any to your fabulous collection? They are beautiful, I hope I will be able to see some up close in Baltimore...Barry, speaking of BALTIMORE, any chance I can talk you into coming down to the national? I'll buy your badge...it would be great to see you....Bruce Perry

[barrysloate]

Hi Bruce- thanks for the invite, and it would be great to see you after so long. But I won't be in Baltimore. That Saturday is my 60th birthday so I will be with Judy for a little celebration. And my collection is gone....sold it quite a while ago. But I sure do like those E98's- they are tempting. Have fun at the National.

[theuclakid]

well Barry, HAPPY 60TH to be! (soon) I will toast you at dinner on Aug 4....I crossed the 60 plateau last April, and am feeling good! Please say hello to Judy for me....Bruce

[barrysloate]

You know I sort of remember that you were a few months my senior...

I will tell Judy and please likewise send my good wishes to Pat. Hope she is doing well.

[mklitzke]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes they will definitely still have good value but it is sort of hard to say where all of this is going to put the other cards already in the hobby. No doubt that red ones already in the hobby will take bit of a hit, with so many high grades ones being found. It's hard to fathom they wouldn't come down some. Other colors, it's just too hard to say right now. Would love to see scans of them too.

Hey...

Here are some photos of my cards... what ya'll think?

Michael

[ullmandds]

Honus looks very nice... but then again it's so common!!!

[Matthew H]

It's the now "rare" orange version!

Thanks for the video post! Seems like the media has been pretty straight forward about the find and has not twisted it like most news stories. I hope I didn't just jinx it

I would have to say that the closest thing I've had to a "Black Swamp Like Find" was about 15 years ago when I was helping a buddy of mine re-shingle his roof. I pulled off one of the shingles and found a handful of T206's. At first my heart stopped, as I knew they were tobacco cards due to the famous Wager everyone in the hobby has seen. Some of the cards were too damaged to even tell the players names and could barley see the photos. I don't recall the exact cards we unearthed from his roof, but at the time they were only going on eBay for less than $100 and in much better condition. My buddy collected at the time, so I just let him have them. He did provide lunch and beer for the roofing job, so no complaints. Only if one of the cards were a a big name, for a minute...I had that glimmer of hope and possibility which caused my spine to tingle. We never figured out why the cards were there under a roof shingle, but that's what makes finds like this great...their totally unexpected and can happen anywhere at anytime

[jbhofmann]

Rarest of all...

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by mklitzke

Hey...

Here are some photos of my cards... what ya'll think?

Michael

very nice wagner...if the white lines on his legs are not creases or wrinkles it looks like an easy 4.

[barrysloate]

Nice one Joel....yesterday I started a Mike Trout thread in the watercooler section.

[mrvster]

LOL!!!

All i find is bats in my belfry

[CW]

HAHA! Great parody card, Joel, and nice reference to Spinal Tap.

And nice real cards, Michael. As stated, the Wagner could go up to PSA 5 if crease/wrinkle-free. The Evers is real nice, too, although the upper crease could put it into a PSA 2 holder if graded. The nice thing is neither of your cards are red back, so this find shouldn't affect their value too much.

[jbhofmann]

Not my work guys. I thought I'd share it though. It was made by a very good custom cut auto maker on another forum.