Talkin "Black Sox " guys....show your Tobacco, Candy, etc. cards of those "involved"

[ThomasL]

Picked up two recently...overpaid for the Felsch I think but that happens sometimes...nice looking 1916 M101-4 Felsch (blank back) and a nice looking 1920 W519 Cicotte

[ThomasL]

Just picked up this rare one at Sterling Auction

[Jeff_cvc]

I'm not a Black Sox collector, but here's a few more common cards that I don't think are posted yet.

Jeff, I love seeing your Jackson collection, awesome stuff.

T200 Chicago Americans 1.jpg

T200 Cleveland Americans 1.jpg

T200 Washington Americans 1.jpg

M101-2 Collins 1A.jpg

T201 Cicotte Thoney 1A.jpgT201 Cicotte Thoney 2A.jpg

T201 Collins Baker 1A.jpgT201 Collins Baker 2A.jpg

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

Just picked up this rare one at Sterling Auction

Nice looking Zeenut. I like how the 1915 Burns looks in comparison to the 1917, because on his 1917 card Bill's face is completely in shadows.

Brian (card not mine)

[ThomasL]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Nice looking Zeenut. I like how the 1915 Burns looks in comparison to the 1917, because on his 1917 card Bill's face is completely in shadows.

Brian (card not mine)

I actually love the 1917 Burns and it is my favorite Black Sox card...I wrote a little something about it once
https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2020/...ack-gold-card/

[mrreality68]

great cards and great thread

keep it coming

[babraham]

Trio of Jackson game cards...National, Tom Barker, and Polo Grounds.

[3finger1908]

two local issues, including the rookie:

gandil e90-3 front.jpg

gandil e90-3 back.jpg

gandil boston store front.jpg

gandil boston store back.jpg

[GeoPoto]

Here's Sleepy, with somebody else's glove!?

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1671211877

[3finger1908]

Lefty is a tough one, I'd love to see what you got! Hugh High seems like a stand-up guy, despite having played for the Yankees, so it's just this one and a W514 in my Pete Rose lunchbox....

[3finger1908]

just saw this one, awesome, my collection is exclusively 'as White Sox' but eventually I will move on to the beautiful Zeenuts

Originally Posted by Kawika

[Epps]

In keeping the theme of Lefty and also the sharpest PSA 2 that I have ever seen

Lefty.jpg

Buck.jpg

Buck Back.jpg

[3finger1908]

Thanks Epps, that standard biscuit Lefty is a thing of beauty. My collins-mccarthy is indeed off center upwards, but it doesn’t bother me and I think great for the grade. The tango eggs Weaver/Tinker mixup is sharp too, but it’s a gross violation of the childish ‘good guys’ vs ‘bad guys’ approach I bring to my Cubs and Black Sox collecting. 🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by Epps

In keeping the theme of Lefty and also the sharpest PSA 2 that I have ever seen

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[Leon]

One of my fave pick ups of "22....(as previously shown) and a boomerang from my first collection.

Done with a trade, no less.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I acquired this 1919 White Sox team poster some years ago.

It is framed, and on display in my Sportscard office surrounded by all my vintage BB and FB uncut sheets.

I have no idea where it originally came from. Perhaps someone on this forum can identify the source of it.


10 1/2" x 16" Poster





TED Z

T206 Reference
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I got mine when they first came out in I believe 1989 or 1990. They were printed on heavy parchment type paper and were numbered to 1500, and were printed from the original plates (that were supposedly destroyed after the print run).

[G1911]

Technically not a Black Sock, but Attell was the alleged fixer and operator arranging the game rigging and so he seems to mean to qualify for the thread.

Here's all 4 of his T219 cards, if I'm allowed to play with Attell.

[brianp-beme]

Nice Attell cards. I believe 3 are actually T218, while the slightly narrower one is a T219.

Brian

[tedzan]

Abe Attell was the "bag man" for New York gamblng gangster Arnold Rothstein. Attell supposedly gave $10,000
to several Chicago White Sox players to "throw" the 1919 World Series.





Printed and issued in 1948 ---------------------------- Printed and issued in 1949


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[G1911]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Nice Attell cards. I believe 3 are actually T218, while the slightly narrower one is a T219.

Brian

All 4 are actually T219's. There are 4 backs in T219, Honest Long Cut with black ink, Honest Long Cut with green ink, Miners Extra, and Red Cross. It is seldom noted, but the Red Cross cards are physically smaller than the other 3 versions, and crop the images even further than the other 3 backs crop the T218 pictures.

Here's the full family, all 9 possible Attell's of this image. Mecca 30, Mecca 649, Hassan 30, and Hassan 649 series 1 backs, above his C52 series 1 card. All 4 T219's on the right.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by G1911

All 4 are actually T219's. There are 4 backs in T219, Honest Long Cut with black ink, Honest Long Cut with green ink, Miners Extra, and Red Cross. It is seldom noted, but the Red Cross cards are physically smaller than the other 3 versions, and crop the images even further than the other 3 backs crop the T218 pictures.

Here's the full family, all 9 possible Attell's of this image. Mecca 30, Mecca 649, Hassan 30, and Hassan 649 series 1 backs, above his C52 series 1 card. All 4 T219's on the right.

My error...I guess I was fooled by the Red Cross. It is nice to see all the versions from the two sets, and a good visual to see the cropping differences between the sets.

Brian

[G1911]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

My error...I guess I was fooled by the Red Cross. It is nice to see all the versions from the two sets, and a good visual to see the cropping differences between the sets.

Brian

I pulled a sneaky on you by including the mini mini Red Cross . Some of the Red Cross cards don’t look nearly as good as the others because the cropping starts to interfere with the picture and not just trim fat off the background like it does for Dishonest Abe here.

[3finger1908]

I will flash some Felsch:

felsch fronts.jpgfelsch back.jpg

the Collins-McCarthy is a blank back.

[3finger1908]

weaver front.jpg
weaver back.jpg

[3finger1908]

cicotte fronts.jpg

cicotte backs.jpg

[babraham]

That's a beautiful Collins & McCarthy Cicotte!

[ValKehl]

Jeff, very nice cards of "Black Sox" players. Is this one of your major collecting focuses?

[Aaron Seefeldt]

3 1/2 years ago I traded a 1915 Cracker Jack Jackson SGC 4 for my dream card and I told myself I can always get another CJ Jackson… then the prices went up. And up. And up. Gulp!!! And up. Well, I had several consignments in REA’s last auction and I was able to get this one.

[FrankWakefield]

8 W514 BlackSox


https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1672425602

[puckpaul]

M113s of Jackson and Collins

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

8 W514 BlackSox


https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1672425602

Nice W514 Black Sox cards Frank. I especially like how card #121 of McMullen snuck in there too. I haven't seen that before...were other aftermarket cards besides McMullen issued as well?

Brian

[FrankWakefield]

That #121 of McMullen was custom printed by a Net54 board member, and I bought one from him. In my binder I have the W514s in 15 pocket sheets; 1-120 fit in 8 sheets, except for those pesky players who have cards for 2 teams. There are 4 of those players... so in the 9th page goes #121 McMullen, then 3 of those extra cards for the guys with 2 cards for their 2 different teams. I lack the extra card for Bancroft, I don't have his New York Giants card. I'll eventually find one.

Normally I'd have the different versions of a player adjacent to each other... but I like how there's 1-15, then 16-30, then 31-45... It makes it easy to find a card.

Hint on the source of #121 McMullen... Moustache

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

M113s of Jackson and Collins

very very nice M113 Jackson

Hard to find.

[Leon]

Eddie

[wagnerj03]

Here is the 1915 Zeenut Fred McMullin/McMullen

[3finger1908]

some more mug shots of the horrible perps:

risberg & williams w514 fronts.jpg
risberg & williams w514 backs.jpg

[rugbymarine]

I picked up a t206 Eddie Collins yesterday to go with my t205. I always thought this would make the coolest side by side image.

[Leon]

Not sure this is altered but definitely short....One of my few 19th century cards.

[Yoda]

Did Happy Felsch have a series associated With Brooklyn called "'The Knothole Gang' back in the 50's? As a kid growing up, I remember such a show, particularly since I was a rabid Dodgers fan.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Did Happy Felsch have a series associated With Brooklyn called "'The Knothole Gang' back in the 50's? As a kid growing up, I remember such a show, particularly since I was a rabid Dodgers fan.

I looked it up, and there was a gentleman by the name of Happy Felton that had a pre-game show involving the players and kids named Happy Felton's Knothole Gang.

So close, but no Felsch cigar.

Brian

[oldjudge]

Unique Wares back

[babraham]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Unique Wares back

Beautiful!!

[tedzan]

Hal Chase was considered a controversial figure in the "Black Sox" scandal. This factor prevented him from being in the HOF.
Chase vehemently denied being involved.


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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[wagnerj03]

Here are cards of all "Eight Men Out." Seven cards from the 1919 set and the elusive only card of Fred McMullin.

IMG_3748.jpeg

[yanks4]

I believe this to be fairly unique??

[Leon]

Originally Posted by yanks4

I believe this to be fairly unique??

That's cool!
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[Vintagedeputy]

I just posted the full story on this acquisition today under the Vintage Memorabilia section, but I'd be remiss if I didn't add a photo to this thread.

1919 World Series program from Game 1

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I just posted the full story on this acquisition today under the Vintage Memorabilia section, but I'd be remiss if I didn't add a photo to this thread.

1919 World Series program from Game 1

I read the story. This is so ****ing cool. Awesome story. Go Reds!

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by todeen

I read the story. This is so ****ing cool. Awesome story. Go Reds!

Thanks! I was pretty happy to finally walk away with it.