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Old 06-01-2023, 06:22 PM
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Default Please help me understand PSA POP Reports/Player Registry Checklists

Hi Gang:

As I have said in other posts here I am an old head and am not really into grading. However as we all know to be in the hobby today even dinosaurs like me have to dip their toe into the TPG world.

I was recently having a conversation with fellow Net 54 member Ken Marks regarding why a variation I have available in the 1962 Post Cereal Canadian set of Sandy Koufax is not listed on his Master set checklist.

To be short there are two different Koufax cards in the set. Each issued on a different cereal box. One ( the common on Alpha Bits) has the word wZlks above the stat lines while the much rarer card (Grape Nut Flakes, YUK!) has the word wAlks spelled correctly.

Ken mentioned to me it was his understanding that any card that appears on the PSA POP report is listed on that players Master set Checklist. Thus because there has been no Koufax Post Canadian wAlks noted on the POP report it would not be on the Master Set Koufax checklist. He challenged me to find an exception where a card was on the POP report and NOT listed in that players Master Set registry checklist.

Below are my conflicting findings.I am hoping someone can explain this to me.

Because I recently turned up a few of the 1961 Topps Dice Cards and had a part of this conversation about them, I used that set for this research.

See:

https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...ice-game/50418

note one card of Frank Robinson has been graded PSA 5. By Ken's argument any card that has been graded (in the POP report) will appear in that players Master Set checklist.

Here is Frank Robinson's player Master set checklist:

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...aster-set/1926

note there is NO 1961 Topps Dice card listed.

Now here is where things go haywire which seem normal for me with PSA.

Go back to the Dice card POP report above. There are two Earl Battey cards listed as being graded.

Now lets go to his Master set player checklist:

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...position/11456

and there is his 1961 Dice Card listed in his player checklist!! So, why not Frank Robinson??

BUT WAIT!

We are not done yet with the confusion. I have been told Test sets which the Dice cards are, are not on Player Master set checklists, ( which we can see above is not true since the Battey is listed in his checklist) but can be added at the end with a red mark.

Again Mantle is listed in the Pop report. Let's go to his Master set checklist:

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...mposition/1792

His Dice card is NOT listed as is the Battey, however there is his Dice card listed at the end of the checklist with the red dot which means the card does not count in figuring a rating for that players registry. Why does Battey count but F. Robinson and Mantle do not?

So, we have all three, Battey, F. Robinson and Mantle listed on the POP report for the 1961 Topps Dice Card set.

The Battey is listed in his player Master set checklist

The Frank Robinson is not listed in his player Master set checklist nor at the end with a red dot

The Mantle is not listed in his player Master Checklist BUT it is listed at the end with the red dot.

Three cards from the same set, all on the POP report, listed differently on the players Master Set Checklists

WHY!!!!???????
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