Ticket/Stubs market

[Snapolit1]

Obviously tickets have exploded, aided significantly by Darren Rovell on Twitter at least with respect to modern stuff. Do tickets keep rocking upwards, or was the ticket bump largely a product of the 2021-covid mania and people turning to something other than cards to "invest" in? I think the answer might vary on what tickets/stubs you are talking about, but interested in people's views. I can see both the bullish case and the case that maybe things have already cooled off in all but a few areas (i.e., Tom Brady, some basketball guys, etc.) Sort of amazing to me how a Mickey Mantle card will sell in a day for $300,000, but a significant Mantle ticket stub will languish on Ebay for months at $3000.

I know there are some huge ticket collectors here, and many of them couldn't care less about selling or skyrocketing prices; just curious as to where the market is heading.

Does a Juan Soto or a Ronald Acuna first game ticket really mean much to anyone today?

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Obviously tickets have exploded, aided significantly by Darren Rovell on Twitter at least with respect to modern stuff. Do tickets keep rocking upwards, or was the ticket bump largely a product of the 2021-covid mania and people turning to something other than cards to "invest" in? I think the answer might vary on what tickets/stubs you are talking about, but interested in people's views. I can see both the bullish case and the case that maybe things have already cooled off in all but a few areas (i.e., Tom Brady, some basketball guys, etc.) Sort of amazing to me how a Mickey Mantle card will sell in a day for $300,000, but a significant Mantle ticket stub will languish on Ebay for months at $3000.

I know there are some huge ticket collectors here, and many of them couldn't care less about selling or skyrocketing prices; just curious as to where the market is heading.

Does a Juan Soto or a Ronald Acuna first game ticket really mean much to anyone today?

I know next to nothing about the ticket market, I think the people that collect tickets do not necessarily have to worry about stubs being turned into NFT's or the ticket of Mantle's first world series home run, becoming part of some quasi-etf.

I will say that a ticket to Soto or Acuna's first game, to me, might be worth more than a card of theirs. With so many RC's of them floating around, the ticket stubs itself, are more finite. Not to mention with the move of so many things to digital, I'd imagine there's less of them to go around.

[MVSNYC]

Hi Steve,

I've had two rounds of collecting ticket stubs during my collecting career...first time was about 15 years ago...I had a good instinct on what to collect (Ruth Called Shot, $1,500, haha, 1919 WS, etc)...But I got "bored" with them and sold or traded them shortly thereafter. Obviously, I wish held onto them.

Fast forward to maybe 2019-2020, I got the bug again (thanks mostly to my friend Tom D), and focused on rookie season stubs (Mantle, Jackie), and historic moments (Gibson HR, Buckner Ball, Super Bowl 1, etc). I keep my eye open for debuts, rookie season stubs and historic moments.

And to answer your question, I don't see ticket prices relaxing at all really, I see them only going up. They're a fantastic way to have a tangible piece of history, that was "in the park" that day.

[Snapolit1]

They're a fantastic way to have a tangible piece of history, that was "in the park" that day.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. Real tangible history. But on the other hand, a 52 Mantle has an aesthetic appeal that an important Mantle ticket stub will never have. Most ticket stubs, with rare exception like Super Bowl tickets, aren't much to look at. They have a wow factor based on their direct connection to an event, not based on visual appearance like cards and Type 1 photos. I think that's a major factor keeping a ceiling on value.

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Hi Steve,

I've had two rounds of collecting ticket stubs during my collecting career...first time was about 15 years ago...I had a good instinct on what to collect (Ruth Called Shot, $1,500, haha, 1919 WS, etc)...But I got "bored" with them and sold or traded them shortly thereafter. Obviously, I wish held onto them.

Fast forward to maybe 2019-2020, I got the bug again (thanks mostly to my friend Tom D), and focused on rookie season stubs (Mantle, Jackie), and historic moments (Gibson HR, Buckner Ball, Super Bowl 1, etc). I keep my eye open for debuts, rookie season stubs and historic moments.

And to answer your question, I don't see ticket prices relaxing at all really, I see them only going up. They're a fantastic way to have a tangible piece of history, that was "in the park" that day.

[frankbmd]

Tangibly "Perfect"



I've got about $100 into this stub.

I hope it doesn't go down.

[Snapolit1]

That's a beauty.

I'll offer $175. Make back your initial $100 and treat someone to a nice dinner at a nearby Red Lobster or Chili's.

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tangibly "Perfect"



I've got about $100 into this stub.

I hope it doesn't go down.

[rjackson44]

im on boogerstickets site on facebook ive done really well they buy it all

[mrreality68]

I believe they will keep exploding in value because there are still an under appreciated and undervalued collectable.

The historically important ones are already spiking dramatically over the last year or so.
The current day will be interesting to see what they do. with so many teams and ball parks going digital there are less paper tickets and stubs so not sure what will happen for example when and if Pujols hits homer number 700 or Cabrera gets hit # 3000.

Also in the current day and some more modern as awareness goes up and people save these tickets if available as tickets there will be alot more inventory for sale and depending on demand could keep the costs down if the supply is greater than the demand.

[Schlesinj]

I have a Jordan first game ticket on Heritage right now that I never expected to sell, but given the recent sales I could not pass up the opportunity to cover a few years of a kids' college education.

I do think people were looking for some alternative collectables and they certainly have seen a visibility of from prominent social media members. I do think people just started noticing how rare some of these items are that also opened their minds a little more too.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I have a Jordan first game ticket on Heritage right now that I never expected to sell, but given the recent sales I could not pass up the opportunity to cover a few years of a kids' college education.

I do think people were looking for some alternative collectables and they certainly have seen a visibility of from prominent social media members. I do think people just started noticing how rare some of these items are that also opened their minds a little more too.

I agree with you but I also think it is because as prices in other areas of collectibles started to spike like cards then casual and serious collectors were trying to find something affordable or upside potential so they went to say photo’s and then as photo’s went up they went for the next collectible that was affordable like tickets (not necessarily in this order but an example)

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I agree with you but I also think it is because as prices in other areas of collectibles started to spike like cards then casual and serious collectors were trying to find something affordable or upside potential so they went to say photo’s and then as photo’s went up they went for the next collectible that was affordable like tickets (not necessarily in this order but an example)

totally agree...it's kinda the next "thing"...people searching for the undervalued collectible...the alternative. There are a limited supply of them from the start and the surviving copies is likely a small % of the total issued...esp older stubs.

Additionally there are no more ticket stubs in many aspects of spectating? Are we to collect 8 1/2 x 11" printouts...or screen shots?

I've saved most of my ticket stubs throughout my life. I know I had an early wrestlomania stub...that I thought was worth some $$$$$...and now I can't find it!!!!!

[tkd7]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Does a Juan Soto or a Ronald Acuna first game ticket really mean much to anyone today?

That may be a trick question. A Juan Soto debut ticket is probably the hardest to find star debut ticket issued in the last 5 years or so. There is one on ebay at $15K BIN and it has 13 watchers.

That said, I think ticket collecting is still a small niche, even if the number of collectors has gone up 10x in the last 18 months.

Rovell had something to do with it I'm sure, but the sector that has really exploded, debut tickets, is something he specifically avoids unless there is some historical significance to the game other than a debut.

I think the modern segment of the market (say 2000 to 2017 or so) will cool off as more and more tickets enter the market. I'm convinced that there are more season ticket books out there to be pulled apart for hot tickets.

I do think that moment tickets from the 20th century will continue to go up and interest will continue to follow. The move to electronic tickets will keep interest up on tickets as collectors try to find hard tickets for current debuts and moments.

Something else that will continue to drive the hobby is with such a short supply of tickets, collectors are really forced to trade for obscure tickets as many tough one are locked up in long time collections. I think that makes the segment more interesting as well.

I'm looking forward to seeing the segment grow, but I miss the days of $100 signed Perfect Game tickets.

[jgmp123]

I am in the process of consigning my 1920-2020 World Series ticket collection with LOTG for an upcoming auction. I don't think we'll see prices like this again for a while.

[Schlesinj]

Rovell just tweeted PSA just announced that PSA express ticket is $50 per ticket and 100 day wait.

[Shoeless Moe]

probably due to idiots buying all these Bobby Witt Tickets that "were so hard to find." Haha!

approx 55 auctions/BINs have sold some with multiple tickets sold on Ebay already in the past 2 weeks....plus another 15 or so currently at auction.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...&LH_Complete=1


Sold between $99 & 1650.00 (idiot who paid that the day after his debut, rather then wait a couple days and get one for $99-$200.)

Who by the way batting .146 in 41 abs - he keeps that up and these tickets will be going for between $5-$20 in the next few years.

Now mind you if he turns it around and becomes the next Babe Ruth these buyers will look like geniuses. Until then we can refer to them as morons.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

I am in the process of consigning my 1920-2020 World Series ticket collection with LOTG for an upcoming auction. I don't think we'll see prices like this again for a while.

Good luck, James!

[Schlesinj]

A bunch of interesting tickets are about to finish auctioning off including DiMaggio 56 game ticket at Hunt right now.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

A bunch of interesting tickets are about to finish auctioning off including DiMaggio 56 game ticket at Hunt right now.

Yeah watching. The Babe called shot ticket went crazy.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

A bunch of interesting tickets are about to finish auctioning off including DiMaggio 56 game ticket at Hunt right now.

Did you get any Jamie?

[philo98]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Yeah watching. The Babe called shot ticket went crazy.

And the Mays catch for $27K? Even crazier.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by philo98

And the Mays catch for $27K? Even crazier.

Especially considering one just went on Ebay for 1800 this past week, albiet not as nice condition, but a 25K difference...I don't think so.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20391196284...p2047675.l2557


One almost in similar condition as the Hunt one went on Ebay for 2800 in February.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/37392427284...p2047675.l2557

I think Hunt is a case of 2 bidders getting caught up in it.

They could have bought the last 10 Mays Catch Tickets that went on Ebay for that 27K they dropped today.

[Schlesinj]

Yeah, nuts. I thought the DiMaggio went cheap since they do not come available too often

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Yeah, nuts. I thought the DiMaggio went cheap since they do not come available too often

I totally agree with this sentiment. I followed the Hunt auction today with great interest. Ticket stubs to memorable games but that are often available for sale or at auction (Ruth's called shot, Mays' catch, Wamby's unassisted triple play, for example) brought incredibly high prices. Clearly demand took over with little regard to scarcity.

By contrast, the stub from Feller's opening day no-hitter, which I cannot remember coming to market (I've seen only one other example, in a Cleveland collector's collection that's not going anywhere) sold for $8,000. Sure it's a strong price, but it pales in comparison to some other prices when you factor in how rare it is (and the fact the event is very, very memorable and historic).

Would be very interesting to see the profiles of some of the buyers.

[5-Tool Player]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Good luck, James!

James, Good Luck but the gravy train might continue to drip. ; 0

[MVSNYC]

1919 WS Stub for $38k.

Ticket market seems incredibly strong.

[Shoeless Moe]

Tickets making there way from Hunt to Ebay in less then 24 hours.....in case you missed out:

https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...=257&lot_qual=

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26565776348...gAAOSwHgtiY2Nc

[jcmtiger]

The only ticket I have now.

[Snapolit1]

Sort of feels like the card market. . . . the truly unique, historic stuff (i.e., Joe D streak, Mays catch, 1919 White Sox) have exploded, while less special stuff (i.e, random WS ticket from the 1920s, A-Rod's first game, Renny Stinnets 7-7 game, first or last game at ____ Stadium) have all gone up a good bit and might go up a little more but don't look like they are going crazy.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

The only ticket I have now.

But that's a great one!

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by philo98

And the Mays catch for $27K? Even crazier.

No joke. Not a rare ticket by any stretch. That was consistently a $250-500 ticket pre pandemic.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by jimjim

No joke. Not a rare ticket by any stretch. That was consistently a $250-500 ticket pre pandemic.

Some uneducated, big wallet buyers have entered the ticket collecting game.

Good for sellers, bad for collectors.

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

But that's a great one!

Thanks, I like it

[Enoch102]

I’m just happy I got my 1948 set before it took off.

[Shoeless Moe]

REA - 4/25/22 - $720:
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=105078



Ebay - 4/24/22 - $224......and no tape residue:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/30444848699...p2047675.l2557

[Shoeless Moe]

Joe Day....

[Schlesinj]

Need some advice, I own the Uncle Jimmy Program and Ticket Stub from the Babe Ruth Bows Out game. He traditionally took the ticket and taped it to the page where you would keep score. I have not touched it and placed the program in a comic book holder hard case, but have not removed it (as I am concerned to touch it).

I do not plan on selling, but for purposes of protecting should I remove the ticket or just leave as is?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Need some advice, I own the Uncle Jimmy Program and Ticket Stub from the Babe Ruth Bows Out game. He traditionally took the ticket and taped it to the page where you would keep score. I have not touched it and placed the program in a comic book holder hard case, but have not removed it (as I am concerned to touch it).

I do not plan on selling, but for purposes of protecting should I remove the ticket or just leave as is?

My 2 cents. If you REALLY do not see yourself selling it, leave it as is.

It would need to be removed if you do plan to sell...for max value. Ticket collectors want just the tickets. But collectors of history of the game would be fine leaving it as is.

[5-Tool Player]

Leave it as it is, to save the ticket stub would a impossible task. Keep it as is to keep in mind what your relative intentions were (document history).

Good Luck

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by 5-Tool Player

Leave it as it is, to save the ticket stub would a impossible task. Keep it as is to keep in mind what your relative intentions were (document history).

Good Luck

I agree with the "leave it", but do not agree with the "impossible task". It is very possible.

I've done it with a few different tickets. One was a Catfish Hunter Perfect game taped in a program, the other was a Mantle Astrodome 1st game, also taped in a program. Did it with another 1 or 2 as well. It can be done. However there will be tape residue.

But to your point, it can be risky, and depending on how taped it is in the program can also determine the ugliness of it once removed.

[Schlesinj]

Thanks, guys. I appreciate your insight. I am going to leave it alone.

As a side note, how would a person try and remove tape without damaging a ticket or a card?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Thanks, guys. I appreciate your insight. I am going to leave it alone.

As a side note, how would a person try and remove tape without damaging a ticket or a card?

I've used a blow-dryer / hair dryer - you heat it and the tape can then be peeled off. But again it leaves residue, don't believe there is any way around that.

There may be a YouTube video on it or a thread on the card side I'm sure that may tell more.

If you see a cheap one on Ebay - a ticket taped inside an old scorecard, buy it and practice.