eBay warning Battlefield auctioning 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 5, 53 Mantle PSA 8, Etc

[Zact]

And she has put up a 1979 opc Gretzky PSA 9, And a Bill Russell rc PSA 8. The 1980 Rickey Henderson PSA 10 that just completed a few days ago was a lifted scan. The card with that serial number was holdered in a new lighthouse label case and she ran the auction with old scan. Does not look good . She apparently is shipping these high dollar cards via FedEx to avoid mail fraud?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Zact

She apparently is shipping these high dollar cards via FedEx to avoid mail fraud?

If she is only lifting the scans from online, then what is she shipping? Empty packages? Counterfeit PSA cards?

[Zact]

(1) 1980 Topps Henderson PSA 10 Heritage auctions May 2016 serial number ending with 74761- image at HA.com clearly shows newer hologram PSA flip. Sold for $38.240.

(2) 1980 Topps Henderson PSA 10 recently completed by Battlefield with the same serial number - realized price of $14,000- image/ scan used, has the same serial number, without the hologram on the flip- how can this be correct?? - when the card was reholdered.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKEY-HEND...p2047675.l2557

(3) Look at the feedback from Battlefield's recent 1954 Aaron PSA 8 auction - negative - card not delivered 1 month. She replies Fedex tracking number etc
No card and its been over a month. Waiting on $16,000 refund Buyer: j***9 ( 506Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month Feedback conversation
Reply by battlefield0516 (Oct-30-17 15:18):
FedEx tracking number 788002104616 proves delivery! Anyone can verify this!
HANK AARON 1954 TOPPS #128 - RC - MILWAUKEE BRAVES - PSA 8 - NRMINT-MINT!!! (#132333907527) US $16,511.00 View Item

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HANK-AARON-...p2047675.l2557

put the pieces together

[Bigdaddy]

No promises

No demands

Love is a Battlefield

..since 1983

[ullmandds]

maybe the descendants of battlefield are going for the big payday hiding
behind the account of a dead woman?

[Fred]

Damn, there's a thought. I can create different accounts, sell tons of little bullshit items and then sell my ebay ID to someone else for lots of money so that they can bilk people.... Crap, I bet someone beat me to that idea...

[Roulette44]

Originally Posted by Zact

(1) 1980 Topps Henderson PSA 10 Heritage auctions May 2016 serial number ending with 74761- image at HA.com clearly shows newer hologram PSA flip. Sold for $38.240.

(2) 1980 Topps Henderson PSA 10 recently completed by Battlefield with the same serial number - realized price of $14,000- image/ scan used, has the same serial number, without the hologram on the flip- how can this be correct?? - when the card was reholdered.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKEY-HEND...p2047675.l2557

(3) Look at the feedback from Battlefield's recent 1954 Aaron PSA 8 auction - negative - card not delivered 1 month. She replies Fedex tracking number etc
No card and its been over a month. Waiting on $16,000 refund Buyer: j***9 ( 506Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month Feedback conversation
Reply by battlefield0516 (Oct-30-17 15:18):
FedEx tracking number 788002104616 proves delivery! Anyone can verify this!
HANK AARON 1954 TOPPS #128 - RC - MILWAUKEE BRAVES - PSA 8 - NRMINT-MINT!!! (#132333907527) US $16,511.00 View Item

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HANK-AARON-...p2047675.l2557

put the pieces together

Said Fedex Package with the Aaron RC was 22x16x8 and 10Lbs!! Hmm... awful lot of bubble wrap used?

[cardsnstuff]

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

[aloondilana]

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

[Jdoggs]

Wow thanks for the warning Christopher.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

You see this as a bigger problem??

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Zact

((2) 1980 Topps Henderson PSA 10 recently completed by Battlefield with the same serial number - realized price of $14,000- image/ scan used, has the same serial number, without the hologram on the flip- how can this be correct?? - when the card was reholdered.

This looks like it is where battlefield got the scan for their Henderson auction:


http://www.milehighcardco.com/1980_t...lot38559.aspx#


I simply did a google search for this card and this was the first image that appeared in the search.....too bad battlefield did not do a more extensive image search for this card or they would have realized that the card had been reholdered between the Mile High and Heritage auctions.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

If prices tank, which of course they won't, that would be a good thing for this buyer.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

You see this as a bigger problem??

+1 !!!

[russkcpa]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

Mail fraud only if shipped USPS

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

I think Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects ebay. Ebay is a venue much like this forum. Venues don't generally get held accountable because of that law. It defines who a publisher of information is and it protects venues in that respect.
I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up. I have never heard from one again after that scenario. Unless ebay is complicit in the specific issue they probably can't be held accountable, generally speaking. Just like I can't be held accountable for what others say on this forum, legally speaking. I am obviously not a lawyer but that is my layman's take on the issue with ebay. As far as going after a bad ebay seller, it would probably need to start with who got ripped off and his local authorities. Federal authorities would have to be interested in the issue and that is not always an easy battle itself.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up.

You're the man!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Unless ebay is complicit in the specific issue they probably can't be held accountable, generally speaking.

I think it would be relatively easy to convince a jury that eBay IS COMPLICIT in leaving her account intact for so many years after so many scams that have been reported up the chain and ignored.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up. I have never heard from one again after that scenario.

Were any of these lawyers representing Bruce?

[Edwolf1963]

Who the hell would bid $16K on any one of her actions .. let alone $6. Even if you’re not much of a student of her game, doesn’t the 97% feedback and countless negatives for the same things (photo shopping, misrepresentation, fraud, etc.) be enough of a warning for anybody with common sense to avoid?

Still amazes me that eBay allows this lice bag to continue to troll around in the wake of overwhelming evidence of fraudulent behavior. Almost like they condone it. I know, I know - they make too much money off her to conveniently look the other way on the obvious shenanigans.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Who the hell would bid $16K on any one of her actions .. let alone $6. Even if you’re not much of a student of her game, doesn’t the 97% feedback and countless negatives for the same things (photo shopping, misrepresentation, fraud, etc.) be enough of a warning for anybody with common sense to avoid?

Still amazes me that eBay allows this lice bag to continue to troll around in the wake of overwhelming evidence of fraudulent behavior. Almost like they condone it. I know, I know - they make too much money off her to conveniently look the other way on the obvious shenanigans.

It is very frustrating. Ebay doesn't make money stopping fraud, unfortunately. That might be our answer.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

No promises

No demands

Love is a Battlefield

..since 1983

Man copycats..