I'm no expert

[lharri3600]

i'm not an expert, but i have a damned hard time trying to figure out what a trimmed card is. many times i see a card slabbed by sgc, beckett, etc with a number, then the card gets to psa then is deemed trimmed, i mean what is the difference? as far as i'm concerned, a trimmed card is a trimmed card no matter who grades it, psa,scg, bvg, bgs,cia!! maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. now i know i'm not the only one this has happened to, i'm just trying to find a why!
http://cgi.ebay.com/1954-Topps-187-H...item2c546bac96

[teetwoohsix]

Hi Larry-

I checked the link you provided,and to avoid that drama,I will say "no comment"

But,here's a thought.If you were a major TPG,and someone sent in a very high grade card graded by your main rival ( another TPG who probably takes away alot of buisness from you),,,what better way to discredit your top competition than to reject something they called a "mint" card as being trimmed?

Not saying this is the case-it's just something I wonder about.

Sincerely,Clayton

[slidekellyslide]

Greg, is not having much luck lately with the grading services.

[Robextend]

Hey Larry,

Also check out post #108 in this thread for a little more background:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...122281&page=11

Rob

[Anthony S.]

Does SGC grade windmills?

[teetwoohsix]

Not if they've been altered

[Robextend]

This was originally in an SGC 88 holder:

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Robextend

This was originally in an SGC 88 holder:

Maybe it's just the angle, but that upper right arm looks short!






Edited to add an image.

[packs]

Why did you allow PSA to crack the holder? SGC has a practice where if they don't immediately think the card will cross, they won't crack the original slab. I've sent in cards I wanted to cross that in their opinion would not meet the grade. So they didn't crack the original slab and reholder.

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Maybe it's just the angle, but that upper right arm looks short!

I should have disclosed that information...you are right on the money!!

Nothing gets by you Jim...

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Robextend

Nothing gets by you Jim...

My kids are 20 and 16. I'm scared to death of the stuff that gets by me!

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

My kids are 20 and 16. I'm scared to death of the stuff that gets by me!

I was 20 about 8 years ago, and I would be scared too if I were you!

[bbcard1]

At one time I believe that it had to do with the angle of the cut and such, but that was before I quit believing that grading companies had any particular integrity or any more knowledge than any number of collectors I know. One day, when I choose to sell, I may be force to change my view, but it is not today.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by packs

Why did you allow PSA to crack the holder? SGC has a practice where if they don't immediately think the card will cross, they won't crack the original slab. I've sent in cards I wanted to cross that in their opinion would not meet the grade. So they didn't crack the original slab and reholder.

Same goes w/ PSA, they didn't crack the card out, the submitter did and submitted it for grading in raw form.