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Posted By: Darren J. Duet
I'm not sure if we did this before, and if we did--sorry. Pre-war please. |
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Posted By: Nate
I would like to see Tip O'Neill get in there. |
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Posted By: Jason Kaster
Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte |
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Posted By: DJ
Harry Stovey, Joe Jackson, Pete Browning and Arlie Latham. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
Heinie Zimmerman. Check out his rankings at the bottom of this link: |
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Posted By: Chris Counts
1B — Richie/Dick Allen |
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Posted By: Chad
c Ted Simmons |
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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)
Here are two not mentioned so far... |
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Posted By: Alan
Joe Wood, Pete Reiser, Vern Stephens, Sid Gordon, Ron Santo (repeat, but worth hearing it twice), Fleet Walker, Dummy Hoy (repeat again), Gavvy Cravath, Pete Browning and Riggs Stephenson. DONE EDITING, lol. |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
I have excluded pre 1900 and Negro League players, and don't necessarily think that the guys on my teams should be in the Hall (in fact I think the Hall could use about 30-40 less guys than are in - my final team is a good place to start) |
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Posted By: Alan
i think he got in because the senile old hall voters thought they were voting for paul. |
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Posted By: J Levine
what about sherry magee? |
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Posted By: Darren J. Duet
Cravath in my opinion is an excellent answer. |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
I like a lot of the guys that have already been listed, notably Lefty O'Doul. |
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Posted By: Alan
if cicotte is on that list, we may as well add rose and joe jackson. and hal chase while we're at it. hell, and buck weaver for just being a victim of circumstance. and claude williams. hell swede risberg had all the makings of a hall of famer too........cobb and speaker are in. maybe we should let johnny chan and phil hellmuth in so that the rest of the gamblers will have some company. |
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Posted By: John S
I would have to cast votes for Phillippe and Cravath. |
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Posted By: Daniel Bretta
Riggs Stephenson! If this guy could have stayed healthy who knows what kind of numbers he would have put up. He was a lifetime .336 hitter over 14 seasons, but unfortunately he only played in 1,310 games over those 14 years. |
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Posted By: Anson
I would add Carl Mays, Bob Caruthers, and Bill Lange to the list. |
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Posted By: Ray
Let the Yankees bashing begin... but Donnie Baseball deserves to be on this list, as well as in the HOF! |
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Posted By: tbob
Deacon Phillipe, Mike Donlin, Tommy Leach, David Orr and Bill Dahlen from pre-war. |
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Posted By: David Vargha
How can you guys forget the man whose career was tragically cut short by a conspiracy of the owners through the office of the commissioner of baseball . . . a player whose career OBP of 1.000 set during his rookie year would have easily surpassed the .609 OBP later amassed by Barry Bonds? This player showed a keen eye at the plate that rivaled that of Ted Williams and he showed patience at the plate beyond his experience. |
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Posted By: Glenn
Doesn't somebody here have Gaedel's autograph? |
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Posted By: DJ
There have been five known Eddie Gaedel signatures that I know of, including one heavily creased photograph which was just auctioned off. Can't remember where. There was also a grade school card and a couple of GPC's. |
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Posted By: Daniel Bretta
Should the Hall of Fame be restricted to how good a guys career numbers were? Why shouldn't Roger Maris be in? He's definitely famous. He had a decent career with two really good seasons and two MVP awards. By definition he has more fame than 90% of the enshrined. And some people still view his 61 homers as the true untainted homerun mark. |
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Posted By: pete
roger maris had a descent career! not great, not awesome, descent...unfortunately, his career was masked by the rest of the yankee staff, specifically mickey mantle, as a matter of fact, mantle only had a .298 career batting average, other than his 500+ homeruns, what did he do? he was much more valuable to the yankees than maris was and everyone loved the mick! so he's in, and rogers out...it sucks but there is only so much room |
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Posted By: Alan
I was trying to stick to "vintage" players. |
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Posted By: Daniel Bretta
I wasn't really arguing that my "what if" (Riggs Stephenson) should be in, I was just pondering a really great hitter who just happened to be hurt by happenstance. |
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Posted By: Alan
i agree with riggs stephenson. scroll up. i said him a while ago. IMO he is one of the top 3 NOT in the hall, that should be. |
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Posted By: Mark
"mantle only had a .298 career batting average, other than his 500+ homeruns, what did he do?" |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
Hit .381 in 1929 and .393 in 1930...second in the batting race both years. Lifetime BA over 12 years .324. The immortal Babe Herman! |
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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)
Cravath was brought up earlier - wow, 6 HR titles in 7 years. Yes, it was during the "dead ball" era but he certainly was ahead of his time in the long ball game. He was second in batting (9 points behind .350 to .341) in 1913 and that was what kept him from a triple crown that year (19 HR and 128 RBIs, 33 ahead of the runner up for the RBI crown). |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Two major ommissions I've noticed, Mike Tiernan and Bobby Mathews. |
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Posted By: Darren J. Duet
YES! to Sherwood Magee |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Magee, Oliva, and Maris are all good choices that I left off. |
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Posted By: Alan
I wanted to also throw the hat of Cy Williams into the ring. |
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Posted By: identify7
I think that Riggs Stephenson was a part of the strength that the Cubs flexed in the 30s. But he was in the shadows with a .336 lifetime average. The shadows of Hartnett, Hack Wilson, Hornsby, Cuyler, Billy and Babe Herman and others. In that group you can lose a .336 hitter who only got 4500 at bats in his career. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
how about "the Ty Cobb of the Federal League", Benny Kauff. I also like Ken williams just because he was the first 30-30 player. |
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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)
Ken Williams is also part of a fun trivia question. Who was the only non-Yankee to win a HR title from 1918 - 1931? |
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Posted By: Chris
How about Barney Dreyfuss for owner? Largely responsible for bringing the World Series to baseball and one of the true good guy owners. Was also responsible for making league schedules in the early days. A baseball genius IMO. |
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Posted By: H Murphy
Gossage, and for all he meant to baseball the BEST Big Game Pitcher the Red Sox ever had.......... El Tiante, Louie Tiant!!!! |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
How can you leave Jackson out--he's one of baseball's greatest players, and he's not in the HOF! |
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