Len Dawson, Chiefs’ Hall of Fame quarterback and Kansas City sports icon, dies at 87

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

That's got to be the greatest concentration of QB talent in football history.

Montana and Young.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Montana and Young.

I'm from 49er country, but I got to take Unitas, Dawson, Layne, Kemp and Morall above the two of them.

What's nuts is how good Steve Young's career ended up being even with him being hampered by spending time in the USFL, and 4 years as Montana's backup with 3 or less starts each year. Still one of the NFL's best ever even losing all that playing time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I'm from 49er country, but I got to take Unitas, Dawson, Layne, Kemp and Morall above the two of them.

What's nuts is how good Steve Young's career ended up being even with him being hampered by spending time in the USFL, and 4 years as Montana's backup with 3 or less starts each year. Still one of the NFL's best ever even losing all that playing time.

I would (not claiming to be the authority) rank Montana a little ahead of Unitas and Young way ahead of any of the others, I am a huge Young fan, thus my vote.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would (not claiming to be the authority) rank Montana a little ahead of Unitas and Young way ahead or any of the others, I am a huge Young fan, thus my vote.

Football statistics are a lot harder than Baseball to relate cross era. Unitas was the best of his, Montana the best of his. My bias is towards Montana and Young. Young's era I'd have to take a deep look into the math, the 90's were really stacked at QB.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Football statistics are a lot harder than Baseball to relate cross era. Unitas was the best of his, Montana the best of his. My bias is towards Montana and Young. Young's era I'd have to take a deep look into the math, the 90's were really stacked at QB.

I think he's 10th or 11th all time on one of those Football Reference combined metrics, but I'm not sure metrics are as good in football as in other sports there are so many intangibles particularly at that position.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think he's 10th or 11th all time on one of those Football Reference combined metrics, but I'm not sure metrics are as good in football as in other sports there are so many intangibles particularly at that position.

I like football history as much as I do baseball history, but it’s so much harder to break down and quantify statistically. Baseball, hitting and pitching at least, is so well designed for statistical evaluation while the structure of football isn’t. I’m biased to the 49er greats, and YA Tittle in particular who was a local to me. Montana, Young, Tittle is a pretty good trifecta for a teams top 3. I’m not sure there’s a better one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I like football history as much as I do baseball history, but it’s so much harder to break down and quantify statistically. Baseball, hitting and pitching at least, is so well designed for statistical evaluation while the structure of football isn’t. I’m biased to the 49er greats, and YA Tittle in particular who was a local to me. Montana, Young, Tittle is a pretty good trifecta for a teams top 3. I’m not sure there’s a better one.

Unitas Manning and whoever would be pretty good. Bert Jones, Morrall maybe? Or Luck?

Starr, Favre and Rodgers. They would have to be right up there.

Montana, Dawson, Mahomes?