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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: Troy R. Kinunen
This is the image SCDA and Dave Bushing based his opinion letter on regarding the Ty Cobb decal bat which is the subject of this post. The bat was also compared to dealer store model catalogs which Dave Bushing has on file. This bat is not listed as a store model bat. Copies from these are availabe upon request. Store model decal bats started with a number 40, i.e. 40TC for Ty Cobb. This bat was a pre model number and no catalog version from this labeling period (1911-16)has ever been recorded. Also, decal bats or store model bats made available to the general public were issued in even lengths, i.e. 33", 34", 35. This bat was issued as a half inch 33 1/2". Finally, the bat was made out of a high quality professional grade ash. The type of wood made available to professional players. An independent lab was not brought into examine the quality of the wood, but Mr. Bushing has personally inspected thousands of bats, both game used and store model. Professional grade wood has a look and feel to it that experience can definetely distinguish. Store model bats were made of lower quality wood, which sold for less money in order to attract customers. Dave Bushing has spent 10 years in the study of decal bats and after studying all of the facts available to him, he is confident that when a bat bearing a decal matches the above criteria, it can in fact be deemed a game used bat. SCDA looks forward to educating the collecting community about game used bats and all documentation and methods are made available to all interested parties that are truly interested in learning more about collecting game used equipment. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: Nick Martinez
Troy, |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
that the discoloration on the photo bat looks vaguely like the same decal on the decal bat, I'd still like to see more proof--clearer photos that support the thesis that players used the decals. I've had 15-20 decals in varying sizes and still have about a half dozen of them. Have seen a lot of them and seen the ones at both the Louisville Slugger Museum and the Louisville Slugger auction in person but I'm still skeptical. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: MW
I'd say the picture is inconclusive at best. The end of the barrel appears to be shaped differently and the taper of the bat also appears to be different. I'm also seeing a very different wood grain pattern although perhaps there is some variation from one Ty Cobb decal bat to the next. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: Mark Rios
If I were to spend 37K or 125K I would need more proof than this grainy image. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: scgaynor
Nick, since photos of Cobb using a decal bat are common, can you find one that clearly shows a decal, or is the image above your proof? |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: scgaynor
Nick, you don't have to look for more photos, I know that you are busy and obviously I (and probably everybody else on this board) am not going to be bidding on the bat anyway. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: jay behrens
If that is a decal bat Cobb is using, why is world is the label facing pitcher? Should label be on "top" or some other position? |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: PASJD
I see very little in the grainy photograph of the bat in Cobb's hands, even as enlarged by MW, that would convince me it is a decal bat (assuming the bat in red is what the real McCoy is supposed to look like). No way of knowing whether it is or isn't, just saying from the perspective of an ordinary citizen, I would hardly call that conclusive proof of anything except that Cobb went to the plate with a bat in his hands. |
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Clarification of Ty Cobb Decal bat
Posted By: Joe P.
The guy in the lower left of the picture, is using a Tom Seaver's mitt. |
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