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Yeah Ben, I'm sure that's the answer. I'll tell him he hit the lotto. Mystery solved.
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If it is some big whatever you want to call it what is their end game in lying? All the theories I have heard have already been proven wrong and Irv just posts links with no real personal comments or experiences. Near impossible to take that seriously especially with his sources. I would love to hear something that isn't completely ridiculous that is the complete opposite of my real life personal experiences. Hell even a nice post about why you have the beliefs you do, I would at least respect that. |
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Fill your boots, Jethro, and just remember, unlike Ben above who is too blind and ignorant to recognize it, if you don't get boosted every 2 months like they are now suggesting, you are an anit-vaxxer no matter how hard you try to spin it that you aren't. "Today, @CDCDirector said: "The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron." This is eugenicist" https://twitter.com/mattbc/status/1479637131748380672 https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/...MSN8QA26s%3D19 https://twitter.com/louietraub/statu...stEULg26s%3D19
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Lol true! Main reason (I believe you told me a long time ago) " dont mute any users, you will miss half the fun "
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I was trying to politely point out that some, like Dale, have made the exact same point dozens and dozens of times, often ridiculing those of us who don't "get it." And what I don't understand is, why bother?? Jumping on the internets to shout into the wind for 6 months seems a bit like a waste of time. In my opinion. |
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The internet helps the wackos find each other. A big reason why absolutely insane (and often dangerous) garbage is on the rise all over the world. Manufactured outrage is a powerful thing.
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Interesting view, don't remember anyone saying that. They just exaggerate for effect. The loons on FB, YT, and other social media sources straight up lie to get views from the weak minded and those looking for a good laugh.
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This post is STILL going?? A Net54 record for a non-collector issue, perhaps?
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I’m not sure if what I posted had an affect on anyone’s vaccine decision, but I’m certainly not going to remain silent with what I believe is important information that people should know, especially when that info could be as important as life and death info. I never once told people not to get vaccinated, I just told them to do their homework first before they did. Not going to say much more, but if you think I am going to stop posting, you are sadly mistaken. People, good people lost their jobs and careers over a shot they didn’t need. Doctors fired for speaking out. Experts ostracized for speaking out. Some people even lost loved ones over a shot they clearly didn’t need nor even wanted. Old people dying isolated and all alone with no family or their spouse by their side. If you or others honestly can’t find anything wrong with that then I’m not sure what kind of people you are? People need to be punished, imprisoned or hung for what they did, and are continuing to do. If people can’t see that, especially now, then I am at a complete loss for words. What they did to people and society is unforgivable and should never be silenced nor forgotten about, ever.
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If you go back through this thread (not that anyone would want to, lol), you'll see that it's the Covid truthers who initiate the insults and ad hom attacks, against anyone who dares to not immediately agree with their nonsense. Of course, they will later turn around and claim that it's they who were attacked first.
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It's a valid and interesting question as to why folks would post in a thread like this, knowing full well that they might not change the mind of the person they are responding to. If they are truthful some may just admit that they like being argumentative or enjoy a good debate. My answer is that some folks will post what they interpret to be more accurate information in response to some of the stuff that gets posted and initially triggers the response, with the hope that the information will float around in the ether and possibly be read by others that really are interested in getting more information on the topic and might at least consider contrasting points of view. In the end, for a thread like this, I don't think there's a high probability that I'd change the mind of any individual poster that I'd respond to. The subject matter in this thread is a bit more complicated than in a thread where one is simply debating which cards might appreciate in value the most in the next 10 years. Last edited by jethrod3; 01-09-2023 at 11:53 PM. |
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In other words, you can potentially convince someone that, generally, the vaccines are/were effective, but not convince them that they should've been mandated by the force of government. Same with masks. Then there's the whole hypocrisy of some, who will insist we own our own bodies....... oh, except when it comes to vaccines rushed into production. |
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If you think any of these people are going to walk back anything at this point with their future/lives/reputations on the line, you're as blind and ignorant as they come. I am thinking I must be living in the twilight zone as it's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact people still think the vaccines work despite one can still contract covid, still spread it, still be hospitalized and still die after they have been vaccinated. It's mindboggling. How many lies, finger pointing, back peddling and goalpost moving do you need to see in your world before you say, whoa, and throw up a red flag and question anything? You remind me of someone else on here who no longer posts. The info they found is truthful, factual and unbiased but any info I or others find is the complete opposite, fake and a conspiracy theory. I post actual vids of people under oath, in interviews, etc, and yet some think they are fake and fabricated somehow like I'm a video/movie producer who made them myself. Watch this (assuming you haven't?) and watch Dr. Birx squirm and admit under oath the vaccines were based on hope, in hope that they worked. Remember when they said natural immunity was a conspiracy theory? https://www.c-span.org/video/?c50210...-december-2020 Remember when John Robert's got caught on the hot mic in the WH press briefing room? This was shortly after that CA study came out earlier on saying 6-20x's the positive tests already had the antibodies early on. Meaning it was far, far less dangerous than they were pushing. .1-.3% mortality rate. They couldn't cover this up fast enough. Why did they not want the truth getting out??? They sold it as a sterilizing vaccine when it was never even tested as such. In fact from early trial data that had to be able to know that it wasn't. That alone is FUBARED. Then they rejected actual potential prophylactic treatment because they wouldn't have gotten or lost their EUA. This may have cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives in the US. And people say trust them. https://youtu.be/eT_Gis3gkwc I guess some are willing to die on their hill and remain in the prison they don't even know their in, and nothing, despite the evidence and proof that we've seen, especially today, is going to change their minds. Enjoy your blissful day, Jethro and be sure to keep boosting away as I'm sure we'll eradicate this deadly disease, with a 99.8% recovery rate, some day.
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Tell me, since you seem to think the shots actually did something, other than make things worse, when has a vaccine been administered and the cases went up, not down, and not just briefly either? You peer reviewers. LOL. It is 100% conjecture the shots did anything at all. Numerous other studies, expert testimony, etc, will tell you this even though you should be able to see that clearly yourself currently. Going on year 3 now. Do you honestly think, if the shots worked, they would still be pushing them on the populace, or even have to at this point, if they actually did what you were told they would do? They are not even doing side affect studies in earnest because they don’t want them to be exposed for what they really are...junk. I know it must be hard for you and others to believe I’m actually still alive being shot free, but here I am. I came through it just like I knew I would by following the science I believed to be true, not the science that was spewed to you and others from their T.V. screens and out of the mouths of our corrupt, crooked and evil Liberal politicians. I know. I know, I’m just a conspiracy theorist though. The shot killed perfectly healthy people and it’s downright evil it was given to, and is still being pushed on healthy people to this day. Covid isn’t nor was it ever a death sentence. It was told to people like you to induce fear, fool you, trick you into getting vaccinated but some people still can't see that??? It never stopped transmission, which they knew, so all the mandates were based on lies which is basically fascism. Thank god for your Supreme Court squashing Biden and the Dems mandates because lord only knows where we’d be today? Oh yeah, almost forgot. Ever seen a vaccine where it really wasn’t a vaccine but in order to still justify it, push it on the people, they had to change the definition of it? Everything I have said from the very beginning has been true so you’ll forgive me when I can’t understand why this covid cult, which it is now, imo, continues to defend the shots, big pharma and bows down still to the behest of their government daddy. From Australia. Give it a listen. He's talking about the information they wanted to hide from you for 75 yrs. Ever give that any thought, why they wanted to hide that from you for 75yrs??? https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/...54149433081859
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Irv, I don't even know what to quote from you anymore. Most of it is just so wrong or misguided. I've got news for you. Your a hypocrite if you use any drug that was derived with NIH or even private funding in which the results touting it's benefits were published in peer-reviewed journals and received FDA approval. You don't get to have it both ways. There's a scientific method and there's a peer-review process, and sure, there are corrupt people in every job on earth so of course no collective profession or no process is going to be as pure as driven snow. But I hope that if heaven forbid you are diagnosed with cancer, you get your head out of the sand and read the literature and educate yourself by talking to people with experience rather than getting your info from Twitter and watching Youtube videos. I asked you a couple of simple questions, all about what is a fact: You were wrong to call the vaccines useless, and while they don't do everything some initially said they would do, they are absolutely not useless. All you have to do is show me data that indicates that the vaccinated were hospitalized and placed on ventilators more than the unvaccinated (and had worse symptoms). Instead, you never answer my questions---you just ask more non-sequitur questions and raise points that either don't have answers or cannot be proven, or are just plain ridiculous, and again, even though you remain civil, you hurl out borderline-demeaning comments like "It was told to people like you to induce fear, fool you, trick you into getting vaccinated but some people still can't see that???" Like me? LOL, the thing is, you don't know me worth a darn, and maybe you should be respectful enough of others to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they know and can comprehend science and medicine a little better than you can because of training and experience. Again, I don't really care if you change your mind. But if people are not willing to admit they are wrong and are unwilling to consider contrasting points of view on a topic when some of their original comments they made are not supported by facts, it makes others less prone to believe any of their posts in other threads. They also tend to respond less in these types of threads: Not because you've beaten them into submission by providing relevant information to strengthen your case, but because folks just get tired of going round and round.
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My real life personal experience from living in an area hit early and hard by Covid are exactly the opposite of what you keep posting links to. That is why I have asked for your real life personal experience several times. I have given up on you posting any real answers but do enjoy your posts on the subject. |
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The only reason to wear a mask at Cape Horn is that it is too damn cold and windy and that is my recent personal experience.
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Others, who I know that were vaccinated, all caught covid expect for my wife and son, but we, after I told them, all started taking Vitamin C +Zinc and Vitamin D daily. Of those that I know that were vaccinated, most against their will, said they feel embarrassed and none, that they've disclosed, have had boosters. How long do you think they're going to string this variant thing along for, Ben, before they admit there is nothing going around but cold and flu viruses like they always have? Never in our times has there been a "vaccine" quite like this, never. Cases continue to go up, (during cold and flu season no less) not down and vaccinated people catch covid then thank their vaccines. Bizarro world I tell you, Bizarro world!!!
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Doesnt care about changing people's minds, but wants his voice heard. If you found a gold mine would you keep it to yourself, or tell your friends? Sometimes the messages we are bombarded with every day cause us to speak out. I'm not sure how much more info will come out in the story below. (This Jan. 13 story has been refiled with an edited headline to clarify that the link to a stroke is possible, not definite.) A safety monitoring system flagged that U.S. drugmaker Pfizer Inc and German partner BioNTech's updated COVID-19 shot could be linked to a type of brain stroke in older adults, according to preliminary data analyzed by U.S. health authorities. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said on Friday that a CDC vaccine database had uncovered a possible safety issue in which people 65 and older were more likely to have an ischemic stroke 21 days after receiving the Pfizer/BioNTech bivalent shot, compared with days 22-44. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist Dr. Leana Wen admitted in a column, Friday, that the medical community is "overcounting" the amount of "COVID deaths and hospitalizations”…..that “actual deaths may only be around 30% of the actual count.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...16lw5r?ocid=sf https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/dr-lea...g-overcounted/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ERCOUNTED.html Hmm, imagine that. They've been lying about this all along. I wonder why they'd do something like that?
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Poster boy Sweepstakes and the winner is ..........
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KMayUSA6060 115 Peter_Spaeth 105 irv 104 G1911 101 Carter08 100 1952boyntoncollector 93 Republicaninmass 63 Deertick 56 jethrod3 40 bnorth 33 cgjackson222 27 Mark17 25 BCauley 20 BobC 18 Rad_Hazard 14 Fballguy 12 earlywynnfan 10 Exhibitman 9 steve B 9 The top eight posters are responsible for exactly 800 posts in this thread. but the fat lady hasn't begun to sing yet. Place your bets.
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LOL. That's what I was thinking? And some people think I'm bored.
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I am amused a poster with 7,000 posts is complaining about people posting too much, yet took the time to review every single post and tally them. I am amused the #1 poster on his tally has been complaining that there is any discussion about this subject at all. This thread would be reduced a third or more if we cut out the posts complaining that people talk about this subject now that much of the evidence is not in support of the old narrative. It was all they wanted to talk about when the vast, vast majority was participating in the fear. |
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