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Nice call on Paul Blair, Rocky! How about David Concepcion? Trent King
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Eddie Mathews, That could easily happen to anyone when Hank Aaron is your teammate.
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Old 12-17-2022, 11:12 AM
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Mel Ott. Gets very little attention for such a beast in his time. Similar to Foxx.
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Grover Alexander. Always seems to be relegated to a tier below Young Johnson Mathewson and Grove among prewar pitchers but should not be IMO.
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Eddie Murray. Switch-hitting power hitters are very rare.
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Jimmie Foxx for sure.

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Maybe it is just me, but I struggle with players like Jimmie Foxx and Frank Robinson being underrated. But, I get that there is a difference between an absolute and relative scale. Those two are certainly underrated *relative* to some of their contemporaries, but are widely considered greats of the game (an absolute scale.)

I like the suggestion of Paul Blair, mainly because I have a Blair player collection. But, as someone who grew up rooting for the late '70s Yankees, I'd consider guys like Willie Randolph (65.9 WAR) and Graig Nettles (68.0 WAR) as not getting near enough love.
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Good call on the tall Texan. Some serious history-making there but pretty much unknown outside of Nats buffs and even though tied in closely with Walter Johnson, Bucky Harris, and their back-to-back pennants in 1924-25..
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Tempting to go for Foxx, Musial or Ott, but i would say Jerry Koosman. Big time lefty. If those Mets teams didn’t generally suck, he wins a lot more games. He still won 222 games, and his stats compare favorably to Jim Kaat for instance. Better ERA, same WHIP, 18 years vs 24 years, but aside from Kaat’s extra longevity stats, you might easily take him over Kaat. Good hitter too, and 4-0 in playoffs and World Series and led the Mets to the 69 title in game 5.

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Curt Flood. Without him there would be no free agency.
I may get some flack for this one but much like the great Indian Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, free agency happens regardless of what Flood does. Flood took a brave stance and deserves to be recognized, but he lost his case and it didn’t really move the needle on the issue
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To me, "overlooked" indicates a non-HOFer. My under-appreciated player is Dave Concepcion.
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I may get some flack for this one but much like the great Indian Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, free agency happens regardless of what Flood does. Flood took a brave stance and deserves to be recognized, but he lost his case and it didn’t really move the needle on the issue
Michael's phrasing was perhaps not the best, but still Flood was an important figure and even if he was short term unsuccessful he raised awareness and inspired others along the path. That it may have been inevitable doesn't really diminish him, so too was civil rights and many other historical trends but we still rightly revere certain leaders.
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Dave Orr. He is Pete Browning without the bat story and a better fielder. His annual hitting line is almost identical to Dan Brouthers’ except his career was cut short by a stroke. In his one year playing against NL stars (1890 Players League) he was second in batting (.371) and second in RBIs (124).
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Hal Chase - I know, I know about being and ass and gambling along with his colorful personality - but his skill on the diamond was very impressive. If you interested the Black prince of baseball is a good read.
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Stan Hack.

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Even among Cubs fans he's mostly an "oh yeah, that guy was pretty good" afterthought even though he played his entire career with them and coached/managed in the Cubs system for many years following his playing career.

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Stan Hack.

Hell of a hitter (.301/.394/.397 over 16 seasons, 8509 PA) and an above average defender at 3rd (great glove, not as great arm).

Even among Cubs fans he's mostly an "oh yeah, that guy was pretty good" afterthought even though he played his entire career with them and coached/managed in the Cubs system for many years following his playing career.

Hack was a huge collector of Cubs memorabilia, too.
This is a really good one.

I think most of the most underrated are 1) players who made the Hall but are almost universally panned for being in the Hall and there historical reputation becomes ‘that guy who is in the Hall but should not be’, and they never get credit for being very very good players in actual merit, or 2) players like Hack who just miss the Hall debates and have faded into complete and total obscurity even though they were very very good players as well.
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Frank Robinson was the 1st one to pop into my head, as the question suggested. Don’t know if it’s the right answer, but it’s the honest one.
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