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Old 12-06-2023, 11:56 AM
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Default T206 steve evens -$$$$$$$$$$

What is going on with the T206 Steve Evens Card. This common card price just soared over the last 2 Months. (Check Ebay Sold prices) PSA 3 -Selling in the 3-4 K range -Raw cards selling between 2-3 K.
This card is selling for more than Some Big Name H.O.F from this set.
Like Wojo, Matty and Young.
I sold my PSA 5(-6-8 )Months ago for $250.00.
Looks like we have another Titus epidemic.
Hard to Explain, Unless Someone is trying to Hoard them .But paying those prices is Crazy and most likely will never recoup anywhere his cost if selling down the road.

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Old 12-06-2023, 12:13 PM
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Fake sale??
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:23 PM
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Crazy. Lots of ended listings in the last 3-4 days. Before that - things seemed normal?

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Old 12-06-2023, 12:42 PM
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Reminds me of the 1952 topps tony bartirome hoarding
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:48 PM
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Whether you believe it or not, it is happening. Try finding one at a reasonable price,

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Old 12-06-2023, 12:57 PM
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This is crazy, if legit. One could hoard a T206 by just bidding 150% of the value and shutting up. Iíve hoarded cards I especially like before without any impact on market prices, because I shut up and didnít do this. Supply and demand is irrelevant to pricing; its perception of supply and demand that impacts. If you just shut up youíll get most of them without much of a premium.

More likely itís probably some troll not paying for these.

Anyone want to pay only $1K for my T205 Evans? Call me
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Old 12-06-2023, 01:21 PM
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A raw card sold as recently as November 12 for $190.

Looks like this is a very new enterprise.
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Old 12-06-2023, 01:27 PM
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Oh no, not another Titus card...

Should be interesting. If the card is a basic common then someone's really going to have to eat a lot of these over a long duration of time to really change the market pricing. Right? I know someone that had a LARGE quantity of a certain player yet couldn't dent the overall market because there were just too many of them out there. If you had a lot of resources, you could buy everyone that came on ebay, but after a while, wouldn't you just have a large quantity of a common player?
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I'm wondering if it's someone in search of a new variation.

If you look at different examples of the card, you'll notice subtle differences in the placement of the St. Louis in red on his uniform. The red shifts from left - right; this is noticeable where the red intersects with the bat and Evans' left hand, as well as where the first S is in relation to the crease between the S and the t; also where the second S is in relation to the crease after it. This is simply a color shift when the red was printed, as it will also be noticed with the red on his cap and sleeves.

I suppose if you found two cards, one with the red shifted extreme-left, and another with it shifted extreme-right, it might be worthy of note; otherwise, I would consider it simply a printing anomaly; no different than other cards with noticeable color shifts.

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I saw those listings and thought the seller was drunk or high.
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I've got a PSA 4 SC 350/30 anyone want to make a bid?
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Old 12-06-2023, 02:01 PM
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Put it up for Buy It Now. It doesn't seem like any of the sales were bidding wars. Looks like all Buy It Now.
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So, you're charging $4 grand. you're just kidding or hoping for a sucker, huh?
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Old 12-06-2023, 03:22 PM
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I just looked at completed sales. The sellers are the usual T206 sellers asking $2000 and getting it. I guess I need to check my T206 box for Evans. Do you think they need the T213-2 back?

This is why "past sales" don't really mean anything, unless that buyer is there buying.
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Evans is roughly at the median in terms of scarcity.

About as vanilla as it gets.

We had meme stocks like GameStop maybe we now have meme cards.

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Evans is roughly at the median in terms of scarcity.

About as vanilla as it gets.

We had meme stocks like GameStop maybe we now have meme cards.
Hey Scot. I checked the PSA Pop report on Evans: 294, which shocked me. That's right at the #'s of much heralded harder to find cards in Ames (hands at chest) & the very difficult Schulte (front view). But, why is Evans an expensive card now when it wasn't only a few months ago? Weeks ago he was vanilla.

His Buy It Now #'s on Ebay are stupid. They are at Matty white cap $#'s for the same grade.
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I saw the bigger recent sales and sold my duplicate for $150 in late October. I bought it for something like $40 in Aug 2022. Itís not even in particularly good shape (big crease, bad corners, stained back) and a raw Piedmont 350/25. (I kept my better example)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16639291049...mis&media=COPY

This was a legit auction with multiple bidders.

I donít know the etiquette of ďoutingĒ a buyer, but they are ďin the businessĒ. Iím guessing there is something to this (maybe new variation??) but I donít really care about variants and am happy with tripling my investment in a year.
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Ok, looks like a few more have just sold at some crazy prices
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Old 12-06-2023, 07:39 PM
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List your Evans' cards boys, it's free cash. Money printer goes brrrrr
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:11 PM
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Strange. I sold the Evens proof earlier this year, I never was good at that whole timing thing
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:18 PM
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I took a nap and 2 more sold and 2 more were listed.

I looked in my raw T206 box and have this low grade one. It's not a rare card.

It's not for sale, gang.


This kind of stuff is more fun to me than actually buying the cards.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:30 PM
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Is there something going on in Reddit? Isn't that where crazy stuff starts like the Gamestop market pinch.
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Can confirm. Sold one this evening
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Let us all show our T206 Evans, so that if the compulsive buying culprit is among us, we can either prove that you can't corner the market when it comes to common T206 cards, or perhaps make an easy, incredibly lucrative sale.

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Hey Scot. I checked the PSA Pop report on Evans: 294, which shocked me. That's right at the #'s of much heralded harder to find cards in Ames (hands at chest) & the very difficult Schulte (front view). But, why is Evans an expensive card now when it wasn't only a few months ago? Weeks ago he was vanilla.

His Buy It Now #'s on Ebay are stupid. They are at Matty white cap $#'s for the same grade.
The PSA pop on Evans is actually 358 but I think he's still the lowest pop of any non Southern Leaguer that didn't have a team change Like Elberfeld, Dahlen, George Brown etc...
and his pop numbers are about the same as the team change subjects with lower pops.

Of the ones that sold in recent auctions it was the same two high bidders in all of them with most of them being won by the same bidder.

There are no major print flaws that I'm aware of just one minor print flaw that I've only seen on Polar Bears.

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Hopefully the OP changes the title of this thread, because otherwise folks might think that both sides of these card transactions are getting even stevens.

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Wait, print flawÖ. Iíve never seen one of those, how many are those are out there. Iíve never seen one.
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Wait, print flawÖ. Iíve never seen one of those, how many are those are out there. Iíve never seen one.
I've only seen 7 examples out of 500+ Evans and they are all Polar Bears. I see there was a Polar Bear and a Piedmont with the flaw in the recent sales. That's the first non Polar Bear that I have seen with the flaw.
Steve B would probably have some possible causes of the flaw. My guess would be it had something to do with the Yellow printing plate.

Here's another example with the flaw

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Serious answer is no, the cards sub is not doing this. Nor any of the discords as far as I can tell.
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A shot in the dark, but maybe the image was discovered to be someone other than Evans? There has to be a dumb reason for this...
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Can confirm. Sold one this evening
Did he actually pay?
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17 sales today on ebay, most after this thread started. They are any and every random Evans. Like a hedge fund guy just learned his great, great granddad played baseball.
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There's something fishy about the Piedmont in this sale

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22590559651...Bk9SR-7V6KmIYw

Here's the card in question that I pasted in between the front and back of a a Polar Bear Image I have in one of my print flaw my folders.

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What about those of us working towards 520 who donít have Evans yet? (Like me!). This is the worst thing Iíve read all day.
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I see what you are saying, Pat. The buyer may be getting scammed by some typical ebayers, but he is also buying from some very well known collectors and dealers. Click on the sales.
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I see what you are saying, Pat. The buyer may be getting scammed by some typical ebayers, but he is also buying from some very well known collectors and dealers. Click on the sales.
Hey Rob, I'm not questioning the other sales just the one I provided a link to.
It has a Piedmont back and all of the stains and marks match up with the Polar Bear example that I posted.

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There's something fishy about the Piedmont in this sale


Here's the card in question that I pasted in between the front and back of a a Polar Bear Image I have in one of my print flaw my folders.

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Pat. I see what you mean about that eBay sale. Seems like the same card. When you look at the back scan, the corner and edges don’t really match the pic of the back. Maybe it was cracked out of the ‘A’ holder and the seller included a scan of the wrong back (should be a polar bear back). Just a thought.

Meaning…in that eBay auction, the two scans provided don’t appear to be the same card. To my eye, the corners don’t match (top, left especially) and the edges appear to be different.

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Hey Rob, I'm not questioning the other sales just the one I provided a link to.
It has a Piedmont back and all of the stains and marks match up with the Polar Bear example that I posted.
I saw that. It looks like someone used a scan of your card to make a fake. There are a few specs that are different, but too many stains match-up.


I guess this all could be a natural run-up, but I think it looks like a pump and dump pink sheet stock kind of thing, like Scot mentioned.
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Pat. I see what you mean about that eBay sale. Seems like the same card. When you look at the back scan, the corner and edges donít really match the pic of the back. Maybe it was cracked out of the ĎAí holder and the seller included a scan of the wrong back (should be a polar bear back). Just a thought.

MeaningÖin that eBay auction, the two scans provided donít appear to be the same card. To my eye, the corners donít match (top, left especially) and the edges appear to be different.

Hey Sonny, Yeah it does look like the back doesn't match the front. Odd though because the seller hasn't sold any other cards and he doesn't have any other cards listed either.
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I think Sonny, is right, it's just a fake scan, not a fake card. He doesn't have a card to sell.

In the earlier post, where someone said the guy that bought the card from him at auction for $150 is "in the business". I think that was a dealer that knows there is a whale for T206 Evans.
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We'll find out soon enough.

In about three or four months there'll be a new thread on whether it's actually Shoeless Joe.


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Looks like I'm going to have to worry about some common backs as well. I currently have the following for my master set. I'll have to dig out my Polar Bear and see if I have the print defect.


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Did he actually pay?
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Old 12-07-2023, 06:46 AM
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Relieved to find that the T206 Evans I have in my set is in perfectly adequate condition.
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Old 12-07-2023, 06:49 AM
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Hey Sonny, Yeah it does look like the back doesn't match the front. Odd though because the seller hasn't sold any other cards and he doesn't have any other cards listed either.
The person who was trying (or did) sell the Piedmont back stole a picture of my Polar Bear front, that I had listed earlier.

These are real purchases. It's very strange, but true and I don't think he is looking for print flaws. I do think that people are taking advantage of it...like the person who took the image from my post.

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Old 12-07-2023, 06:58 AM
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A compulsive buyer named Steve Evans - buying up T206 Steve Evans - and paying 100x market price. Congrats to the buyer for spending $$ on what he is after and congrats to the sellers that caught this trend early and cashed in. Will be interesting to see where this goes from here.
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Old 12-07-2023, 07:06 AM
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of course I sold my "4" a couple months ago...

time for a Jolly Elm collectorism
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Old 12-07-2023, 07:59 AM
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What about those of us working towards 520 who donít have Evans yet? (Like me!). This is the worst thing Iíve read all day.
Heck, I'm just trying to finish a Cardinals "any back" set and now have Evans AND O'Hara to worry about now. Oof...
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