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Old 12-10-2023, 04:50 PM
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I sold mine Saturday morning. I received an insane amount of money. The hype is real! I just need to ship it to the authenticator. The money has already been paid.
You might have been one of the last ones on the boat. I dug one up late yesterday afternoon that I didn't even know I had, and promptly listed it on eBay for below other comps....aaaand not even a bite. Granted, it IS in pretty rough shape.
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Old 12-10-2023, 05:09 PM
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The one for $1500? I saw that. Yes I think I got lucky. I was one of the last ones....
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Old 12-10-2023, 05:14 PM
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Like someone mentioned earlier, the Titus still bears a premium. That might actually be a good comparison over the long haul.
Eric, thanks for the response. I was the guy making the reference to Titus earlier in the thread.

My opinion has evolved now that he stopped. Why did he stop? Were his funds halted? The Titus craze went on for months, and others joined in as buyers.
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Old 12-10-2023, 05:18 PM
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Eric, thanks for the response. I was the guy making the reference to Titus earlier in the thread.



My opinion has evolved now that he stopped. Why did he stop? Were his funds halted? The Titus craze went on for months, and others joined in as buyers.
Maybe he flew to Pago Pago for the weekend and doesn't have internet service.

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Old 12-10-2023, 05:33 PM
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Maybe he flew to Pago Pago for the weekend and doesn't have internet service.
Good point. Maybe he's buying Kyle Tucker parallels, now.
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Old 12-10-2023, 05:36 PM
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One idiot overpaying like crazy for a week does not make for a long-term special card. That's not actual demand that will drive prices over any long window of time.

Titus became a widespread meme with tons of people working to pump him and making it into a hobbywide joke. That's why Titus has kept a premium; because to do so requires a lot of demand as there are thousands and thousands of every T206 common.

Anyone who managed to sell their Evans will get him back for a tiny fraction of what they made and got free money. The case here is very unlikely to be at all sustainable.
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The one for $1500? I saw that. Yes I think I got lucky. I was one of the last ones....
$999.99 OBO. My own fault, I should have looked sooner than I did.
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One idiot overpaying like crazy for a week does not make for a long-term special card. That's not actual demand that will drive prices over any long window of time.
There could be a few $$ premium because everyone will say "remember that crazy dude paying bank for a common T206..." That little notoriety may add a buck to future purchases. Will be a Net54 Trivia question in a couple years.
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You might have been one of the last ones on the boat. I dug one up late yesterday afternoon that I didn't even know I had, and promptly listed it on eBay for below other comps....aaaand not even a bite. Granted, it IS in pretty rough shape.
Did the same Saturday night. Still there for the taking.
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Hey Scot. I checked the PSA Pop report on Evans: 294, which shocked me. That's right at the #'s of much heralded harder to find cards in Ames (hands at chest) & the very difficult Schulte (front view). But, why is Evans an expensive card now when it wasn't only a few months ago? Weeks ago he was vanilla.

His Buy It Now #'s on Ebay are stupid. They are at Matty white cap $#'s for the same grade.
Hi Bob,

Pops have a price component as you are aware. Higher priced subjects get submitted more often. The main reason Evans has a comparably low pop to Ames HAC and Schulte FV (I’ll take your word for it—I haven’t checked) is that those subjects are higher priced. Watch the Evans pop spike from here.

This thesis is confirmable by normalizing pops by condition. Every subject should have close to the same grade profile in the wild. When I normalized pops by condition back in 2016 Evans came out about average in terms of scarcity.

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Old 12-10-2023, 07:19 PM
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Old 12-10-2023, 07:24 PM
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WARNING CONSPIRACY ALERT:

Maybe the buyer is going to keep the rare back and higher condition cards and make a You Tube or Facebook video or post which shows him/her/them DESTROYING the other Evans cards they bought thus making his card both famous and more scarce...

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what? It's Over?????
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Old 12-10-2023, 07:45 PM
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Scot,

Good to see you're post, and to hear from you!

You've given me new descriptive words from that "in the wild" comment.

I have not ever cared for the term "raw" when thinking of the majority of my old cards. I thought of them as "normal" or "natural"... "ungraded."

And then there were those "slabbed" cards, or "graded", or "entombed".

Little did I know that what I have is both "wild" cards, and "confined" cards.


As to what your were describing, I'd think people could look at the 4 Cobb T206s and determine graded numbers, and then look at a few of the commons. Maybe do the same with the Cracker Jack cards of Cobb, Jackson, Wagner, and Mathewson; then look at a few commons. And then look at 1933 Goudey cards of Ruth and Gehrig... and a few commons. Those Cobb's, Ruth's and such are more likely to get graded.

It would realistically be true for the HOFers vs non HOFer commons. across the sets.


An aside... back in the day when we'd see binders holding tobacco cards, back when we weren't hesitant to touch them, I found that with a glance, most of us could easily see which ones were American Beauty cards without having to look at the back. AND, we could see uniformly rounded corners on a T206 and see that it had a flat surface (evidence of having been in a stack of such cards at some time), and we just knew that we were probably looking at a Series 150 card. Seems to me those cards got worn more than 350's, and again to 460's, because they were being caried around in the pockets of grubby little kids who weren't hesitant to handle them. There was something about looking at a sheet of 9,15, or 20 of those cards that allowed us to discern those differences.

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Old 12-11-2023, 03:23 AM
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This whole thing from the beginning was odd. I'm happy for the people that made a quick profit. As many of you know, I very rarley part with my T206's unless I have a duplicate. And that's only if it's a certain card that I'm not hoarding. I may have unloaded a Piedmont or Sweet Caporal if I had one. But I was always buying the off backs and staying away from the Piedmont's and Sweet Caporal's because I could easily find those at any time to purchase. So the dilemma was, do I unload my off backs for a large profit? I didn't plan to, so I didn't think about it much. And now that window may have closed. So I don't have to think about it. I think this person started to aggressively purchase these cards, and once they started to arrive at his house, and maybe at the same time, he did some basic population research, and found that only around 20 percent of the cards listed were part of the counted population numbers. Meaning that there were approximately 3500 T206 Steve Evans cards out there. Then you factor that you were paying a minimum of $1000 each, and it becomes simple to see that it was a big mistake to begin with. Especially when you could have made many purchases over a few year period without causing too much attention to yourself. Even if you lost a few here and there, that would have worked to your advantage, plus most of those same cards would have resurfaced for sale months later. It would be interesting to know what experience this person had in the hobby. Because it seems he made no good decisions during this adventure of his. Unless he had a million dollar budget to start out with, and there was zero plans to make a future profit on these cards. Once you start selling a hoard of cards, the value drops quickly. It's very similar to the stock market. The only exception would be if you were hoarding cards that were extremely rare, and your hoard consisted of less than ten cards because of the rarity. Then I could see a decent profit being possible.

Here is my purchase information on my 3 Evans cards. My profit margin would have been really good if I had the ability to sell my cards without the anxiety attack.

PSA 2.5 El Principe De Gales $55.00 5/2/2011
PSA 3 Polar Bear $58.00 5/3/2016
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I love the fact that as of a moment ago, there are 31 of them listed on ebay, for prices ranging from $999 to $25,000, and no movement. That just goes to the point a number of people have made about how the card, in a variety of backs, isn't particularly hard to find. It will be interesting to see if we learn what this buyer was really up to, if he or she choses to share.
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Congrats if you sold during this crazy wave.
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Players name is "Steve Evans", buyers name is "Steve Evans".

I'm going to stick with the Christmas present theory.......even if it's just for himself.

He wanted to draw as many out as possible, in as short a time frame as possible. I highly doubt, "Steve Evans" was trying to corner the T206 "Steve Evans" market. Rich people spend obscene amounts of money on a lot dumber stuff than this. I doubt this is some sort of an "Investment" for him.
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Rich people buy Joe Jackson back runs. It reminds me of the time I bought a Houston Oilers pencil from a classmate for $10. My parents called his parents and got their $10 back.
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At first I thought it might be his idea of a fun way to offset a large capital gain but it's to late in the year for that.

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Congrats if you sold during this crazy wave.

I think I sold the last one. I sold mine Saturday night around 9PM EST.
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He just bought another didn’t he…
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A psa 3 Evans sold yesterday for $600 according to 130point.com. Sweet Cap back.
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A psa 3 Evans sold yesterday for $600 according to 130point.com. Sweet Cap back.
The seller came down from about $3000 .
Greg Morris has one listed as an auction ,
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