PWCC's 1936 Goudey World Wide Gum DiMaggio PSA 7

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No dumbass. I understand it quite well. Cortney initially said that he bid on the card for his own collection. Then he said he bid on it because he was asked to shill. Two conflicting statements.

Peter said

"I think it all fits, if I am understanding it. He initially bid to win, bidding in increments. He stopped short of taking the lead position. He then decided not to bid any more having learned of the card's history. PWCC then asked him to bid again to take the top slot, saying it looked bad that he had stopped short. "

that would not conflict

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Peter said

"I think it all fits, if I am understanding it. He initially bid to win, bidding in increments. He stopped short of taking the lead position. He then decided not to bid any more having learned of the card's history. PWCC then asked him to bid again to take the top slot, saying it looked bad that he had stopped short. "

that would not conflict

Good lord. It is not your responsibility to correct him post after moronic post. Just let him soak in the stupidity and move on.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Good lord. It is not your responsibility to correct him post after moronic post. Just let him soak in the stupidity and move on.

Sorry, but excuse me for not trusting Cortney when his only character witness in this thread said, "Cortney, you have zero credibility as a human being." Re-read post 371 again. I haven't read of anyone coming forward to vouch for him. Then, I look at his bid retractions. Check out his eBay user ID. I don't have that many bid retraction in my 14 years on eBay, let alone in the last 6 months. Then he insults the board with his $20 collector comment. You can make your own judgements, I'll make mine. But quit being a prick!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Sorry, but excuse me for not trusting Cortney when his only character witness in this thread said, "Cortney, you have zero credibility as a human being." Re-read post 371 again. I haven't read of anyone coming forward to vouch for him. Then, I look at his bid retractions. Check out his eBay user ID. I don't have that many bid retraction in my 14 years on eBay, let alone in the last 6 months. Then he insults the board with his $20 collector comment. You can make your own judgements, I'll make mine. But quit being a prick!

I vouched for his recitation of the history of the DiMaggio card -- wasn't this thread about that card at one point?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I vouched for his recitation of the history of the DiMaggio card -- wasn't this thread about that card at one point?

I'm talking about vouching for him on a personal level. And unless I've missed something, I haven't seen it proven that Brent's the one that had the card doctored.

[botn]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm talking about vouching for him on a personal level. And unless I've missed something, I haven't seen it proven that Brent's the one that had the card doctored.

My guess is that if you were given proof you would still argue. You want to see things the way you want to see them which makes it very frustrating to try to discuss this with you.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm talking about vouching for him on a personal level. And unless I've missed something, I haven't seen it proven that Brent's the one that had the card doctored.

So now you say it was doctored, before you were resisting that proposition vigorously?

In any case it's irrelevant. Brent bought the card as an SGC 50 and submitted it to PSA after the work was done. He knew it was the same card. Who cares if he or someone else commissioned the work? Most likely the person he bought it for (according to Betsy) did the work himself, or farmed it out.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So now you say it was doctored, before you were resisting that proposition vigorously?

He just says whatever is in direct argument at that point in time. Isn't that obvious by now?

[jfkheat]

I am having a hard time reading the dates on the first text messages but they look like 2/2/17 at 11:34 AM. If this is correct, these text were sent more than a day before this thread started on 2/3/17 at 4:33 PM. The text were one day and five hours before this became public knowledge. Even if the text date is 2/3/17, it is still five hours before this thread started. Cortney said he stopped bidding once he was made aware of this thread. When he stopped, Brent told him to keep bidding. It looks to me like in the text messages Brent/Besty were complaining about the way Cortney was bidding BEFORE this thread started. I believe Besty's explanation about the bid increments more than I believe Cortney's story about Brent telling him to shill the auction.
James

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

I am having a hard time reading the dates on the first text messages but they look like 2/2/17 at 11:34 AM. If this is correct, these text were sent more than a day before this thread started on 2/3/17 at 4:33 PM. The text were one day and five hours before this became public knowledge. Even if the text date is 2/3/17, it is still five hours before this thread started. Cortney said he stopped bidding once he was made aware of this thread. When he stopped, Brent told him to keep bidding. It looks to me like in the text messages Brent/Besty were complaining about the way Cortney was bidding BEFORE this thread started. I believe Besty's explanation about the bid increments more than I believe Cortney's story about Brent telling him to shill the auction.
James

+1

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Sorry, but excuse me for not trusting Cortney when his only character witness in this thread said, "Cortney, you have zero credibility as a human being." Re-read post 371 again. I haven't read of anyone coming forward to vouch for him. Then, I look at his bid retractions. Check out his eBay user ID. I don't have that many bid retraction in my 14 years on eBay, let alone in the last 6 months. Then he insults the board with his $20 collector comment. You can make your own judgements, I'll make mine. But quit being a prick!

No. You keep insisting he said something he did not, and then he keeps saying the same thing back to you, literally over and over again and you just don't seem to get it.

Like, at what point do you realize you look like a complete and utter moron?

Seriously. Please tell me. The board has a right to know when they will get a break from it.