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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Modern Garbage is going to Tank.

Higher End Vintage Super Stars 6-8 will Dominate

My guess would be the opposite of this.

New is going to stay a overpriced game of hot potato.

After we all get out of the house the insanely overpriced vintage will drop back to before the Covid run up in prices. Except Mantle, he will remain extremely overpriced.

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by bnorth

My guess would be the opposite of this.

New is going to stay a overpriced game of hot potato.

After we all get out of the house the insanely overpriced vintage will drop back to before the Covid run up in prices. Except Mantle, he will remain extremely overpriced.

I’m not sure I buy this. You think everyone who entered the hobby leaves?

I think there is too much cash in the system and I also think social media has made card collecting cool again.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I’m not sure I buy this. You think everyone who entered the hobby leaves?

I think there is too much cash in the system and I also think social media has made card collecting cool again.

Yes I do think they all leave when they can go back to the things they found to be way more fun before. I could be wrong and it would be far from the first time.

[steve B]

Well, I guess that solves my problem about having a couple packs graded...

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I’m not sure I buy this. You think everyone who entered the hobby leaves?

I think there is too much cash in the system and I also think social media has made card collecting cool again.

Agreed. Did you catch Barret-Jackson last week? Thursday and Friday usually pretty sedate, this year it was weekend prices from the get go, 75k cards going for 200k, the commentators were blown away. This isn't going to end until it ends badly.

[Stampsfan]

Is there another business out there that actively and consciously shuts its doors to more customers / sales?

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Is there another business out there that actively and consciously shuts its doors to more customers / sales?

Yes anything that has a limited preset number. Happens in collector issue physical media all the time. They’ll issue say 1000 units but there are 3000 people that want one instantly and they now it but creating an after market helps them sell the next release and so on.

[Johnny630]

This is a positive for the collector of non-graded raw cards, they will become more affordable. Why? Because there is now less upside potential for someone to score with grading a card bought raw. Raw Card Prices should become more affordable.

PSA, it is my belief, 100% is making the right move here.

[bobbyw8469]

Since I have done a few bulk subs to help out the members here at Net54, I figure I will add my two cents worth. This move was LONG OVERDUE!!! I have a sub outstanding since LAST AUGUST!!!! Let that sink in. Having member wait almost a year to get their cards back is unheard of. I hope this will help clear up their backlog some. I was only going to sub under quarterly specials anyway, as I think the $20 price point to get a card graded in ENTIRELY too high. Unless you hold one of those recent "lottery winners", it makes no sense.

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Is there another business out there that actively and consciously shuts its doors to more customers / sales?

The biggest regret former Starbucks CEO Howard Shultz had was to not slow down growth for a few months and fix some of the operational issues the company had. It took years for him to eventually fix those problems.

[edhans]

362 new employees in the last 14 months. Wonder how many of them can spot a fake or altered card or tell the difference between an e120 and a w573.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by edhans

362 new employees in the last 14 months. Wonder how many of them can spot a fake or altered card or tell the difference between an e120 and a w573.

LOL, less than zero but don't worry they will still sell for more in their slab.

[dealme]

Originally Posted by edhans

362 new employees in the last 14 months. Wonder how many of them can spot a fake or altered card or tell the difference between an e120 and a w573.

I would guess very few, which may or may not be an issue. If they were hiring to meet the demand created by the glut of modern submissions, then being able to tell subtle differences in pre-war cards is probably not a requirement of the new employees.

I had always made the assumption that the grading companies operated in some type of assembly line fashion (which may or may not be correct). That would likely leave the logjam with the individual actually assigning the grade. To me, it would seem like there would or could potentially be a rather steep learning curve to this type of thing, even for someone with what many on this board would consider basic knowledge. As with many other business problems, throwing more people at a problem doesn't always make it go away.

Cheers,
Mark

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Is there another business out there that actively and consciously shuts its doors to more customers / sales?

Any good bbq place.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by conor912

Any good bbq place.

Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

One of my fave meals is BBQ. In Texas it is just a fact. That said. have yawl seen how much BBQ has gone up recently? You would think they are in the grading business!

To answer Ed's question above, 0 graders will know the difference between an E120 and W573. They look the same on the front, ya know...

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Agreed. Did you catch Barret-Jackson last week? Thursday and Friday usually pretty sedate, this year it was weekend prices from the get go, 75k cards going for 200k, the commentators were blown away. This isn't going to end until it ends badly.

somebody offered me 100, then 125 and finally 150K the other day on a drive around the block in the Resto Mod. It was tough not to say "Here's the Keys fatso". He said it would cost him 200 to build it today if he could find someone to do it. There is a year wait at most good builders. VROOOOMMMMMM

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

somebody offered me 100, then 125 and finally 150K the other day on a drive around the block in the Resto Mod. It was tough not to say "Here's the Keys fatso". He said it would cost him 200 to build it today if he could find someone to do it. There is a year wait at most good builders. VROOOOMMMMMM

Still less time then it takes PSA to get your cards back to you.


Zing!

I'm here all night folks!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

somebody offered me 100, then 125 and finally 150K the other day on a drive around the block in the Resto Mod. It was tough not to say "Here's the Keys fatso". He said it would cost him 200 to build it today if he could find someone to do it. There is a year wait at most good builders. VROOOOMMMMMM

Nice ride Chuck. My uncle had a white/blue 74 with the HO 455. My cousin and I used to beat the hell out of it back in the day.

[Fred]

I'm not a PSA fan but I don't think this is going to change anything as far as collectors opinions are concerned. PSA will be the desired slab for most people that like TPG flips.

[hockeyhockey]

i'm still not caught up on the registry thing - what's the point of it? is it just people registering their collection online?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by hockeyhockey

i'm still not caught up on the registry thing - what's the point of it? is it just people registering their collection online?

It's never too late to get into it.

It is basically a dick measuring contest for most. Others it is a nice way to keep track of your collection.