American Lithographic T206 journals?

[Pat R]

I'm surprised this thread has received so few responses the pdf file Tom
posted of the ATC journal is incredible information on a large number of
sports and non sports tobacco cards.

The first two index pages list the different brands and most of the pages that they are
on in the journal.

A couple of interesting things I see about t206's that haven't been mentioned
is that 13 of the 15 t206 brands (not including Ty Cobb) are on the index page
but EPDG and Polar Bear are missing also a few of the T206 brands say began
packing for all states except Ohio on some of the ledger pages.

ATC Index Ledger page 1.jpg

ATC Index Ledger page 2.jpg


I think the most interesting thing I found is on the first Carolina Brights page
in the ledger.

John posted one of the Carolina Brights pages in the above post but unfortunately the packing and shipping info has been ripped off but on the earlier Carolina Brights page on the side it says "began packing ball pictures Piedmont back backs in Carolina Brights 12/8/09 or 12/18/09"(I cant tell which). And after that it says began packing 2 ball pictures with C.B. backs but it doesn't have a date.

ATC Carolina Brights Ledger page 1.jpg

ATC Carolina Brights Ledger page 1 - Copy.jpg

To me it seems to indicate that before they began printing the Carolina Brights backs on t206's they were inserting Piedmonts in the C.B. packs.

[brianp-beme]

That is a cool tidbit Pat about Carolina Brights packages probably containing Piedmont backs before they began inserting CB backs into CB packs. Just another possible reason, besides popularity of the Piedmont brand, that Piedmonts backs are so common...cross brand synergy!

Brian

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

That is a cool tidbit Pat about Carolina Brights packages probably containing Piedmont backs before they began inserting CB backs into CB packs. Just another possible reason, besides popularity of the Piedmont brand, that Piedmonts backs are so common...cross brand synergy!

Brian

This is very interesting....

Without this things in documentation, if one pulled Piedmont cards from unopened CB packs, everyone would think those CB packs were tampered.

It is also interesting to know 25 cards were just loosely included inside a carton package and not inside individual tobacco packs.

[boneheadandrube]

[QUOTE=Pat R;2011783]I'm surprised this thread has received so few responses the pdf file Tom
posted of the ATC journal is incredible information on a large number of
sports and non sports tobacco cards.

The first two index pages list the different brands and most of the pages that they are
on in the journal.

A couple of interesting things I see about t206's that haven't been mentioned
is that 13 of the 15 t206 brands (not including Ty Cobb) are on the index page
but EPDG and Polar Bear are missing also a few of the T206 brands say began
packing for all states except Ohio on some of the ledger pages.

Attachment 415453

Attachment 415454


It looks like it says Gales (EPD Gales) right under Hindu on that list, no?

[Pat R]

[QUOTE=boneheadandrube;2011923]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I'm surprised this thread has received so few responses the pdf file Tom
posted of the ATC journal is incredible information on a large number of
sports and non sports tobacco cards.

The first two index pages list the different brands and most of the pages that they are
on in the journal.

A couple of interesting things I see about t206's that haven't been mentioned
is that 13 of the 15 t206 brands (not including Ty Cobb) are on the index page
but EPDG and Polar Bear are missing also a few of the T206 brands say began
packing for all states except Ohio on some of the ledger pages.

Attachment 415453

Attachment 415454


It looks like it says Gales (EPD Gales) right under Hindu on that list, no?

I saw that Greg but I wasn't sure if that is EPDG or not that page is missing from the ledger. I don't remember seeing an EPDG page mentioned in some
of the older threads about the t206 ledger pages but maybe someone else
does.

[T206Collector]

The only reason I knew where these were is because the same catalog hosted a large portion of Jeff Morey's autograph collection, including his signed T206 Cicotte, Clarke Batting, Crawford batting, and Wheat.

Extra large image so people can grab screen shots if they want for their research/records.

[ullmandds]

i remember seeing that uzit letter at a national many years ago...I think the asking price was like $2200.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

The only reason I knew where these were is because the same catalog hosted a large portion of Jeff Morey's autograph collection, including his signed T206 Cicotte, Clarke Batting, Crawford batting, and Wheat.

Extra large image so people can grab screen shots if they want for their research/records.

Thanks for posting those Paul, I knew the Uzit letter and that other Tolstoi
letter existed but I couldn't find any images of them.

[mrvster]

incredible stuff!!

I almost bought a ledger page!

[Bridwell]

Pat R, looking at the Index page is does say "Gales". Could that be EPDG?

Also, note that Polar Bear was, I believe, only inserted in Tobacco packs and not Cigarette packs like the other brands. It could explain why Polar Bear is not listed.