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Posted By: leon
Hey Folks, |
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Posted By: ScottIngold
We seem to have attracted a bunch of new posters in the past month or so. |
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Posted By: leon
To the contrary....it seems as though there are folks that don't ask questions or post for fear of being attacked. I know I can't expect utopia but just wanted to interject my thoughts on the subject. I welcome other opinions and thoughts too... |
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Posted By: Scott S
I think you'd find that there are more lurkers than you would ever imagine. I am speaking to you as one. Yes I use the " buy sell trade area " portion of the forum somewhat frequently, but I do refrain from posting here for the exact reasons your speaking of. I love this forum and I visit it many times a day. However, after reading some of the inflammatory, off topic posts over the last six months or so, I think this may be about it as far as my participation goes. Scott |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I think at any given time we have people who have been lurking for awhile and would like to make their first post but are simply fearful that their question will be deemed by the "experts" as a stupid one. If they finally get the nerve to post and then get attacked or simply ignored, they will be afraid to come back. I once posted a fairly meaningful question on a Seinfeld chatboard and was immediately attacked because someone posted "this question has been asked before, why do we have to go through it again?" My response was "I only found the site yesterday, so how was I supposed to know that?" That is an example where a rude response was uncalled for. And I was off that chatboard for good. |
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Posted By: Dave
I've been posting fairly regularly for about eight or nine months. I for one DO ask the stupid questions...knowing there are a few lurkers who might like to as well. I'll take the brunt of looking like an idiot all day long...fits my character better anyway...he he |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jeez, Barry, there actually exists a Seinfeld chatboard? You mean people sit around all day and wax philosophical about something as mundane as Seinfeld? |
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Posted By: Alan
I remember when someone new came on board & there was some controversial discussion (I forget) & Barry S. told him something like, "Welcome to the board - we are all preoccupied with one of the threads, but nice to have you". |
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Posted By: David Vargha
The new poster child for Net 54 . . . |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Kasha and dandruff, kind of a potpourri. |
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Posted By: Mike
In this thread the word "fear" appears as a reason some people lurk, or avoid getting involved. To me it has absolutely nothing to do with fear. I have been a minor poster for a year or so. Like most of you, I am very busy in my life. When I first got on board, I had several regular posters come after me. Questioning my knowledge and my legitimacy. "Who are you anyway?" "You probably don't even know who Burdick was". One of the dumbest things anyone has ever said to me. What kind of question is that anyway? And yes, i know who he was and what he has done for the hobby. I had several e mails sent to me, that were very critical and inflammatory when all i was trying to do was find out if the Polar Cuban cards were legit or not. Some very rude comments. My point is, some of us have been flying under the radar for years, and have as much or more knowledge than anyone in the forum. But somehow newbies are treated like they don't have a brain, or don't know the difference between Bombo Rivera and Buck Weaver. So fear has little to do with it. It has more to do with not wanting to waste time arguing, or dealing with people who have some sort of ax to grind. All I care about is learning more, making more contacts, and enlarging my collection. Pure and simple. I have no interest in talking politics, religion, in here. I have my own friends I can argue with. So lets try and be more civil in here. We will waste less time, and learn more. |
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Posted By: martindl
Leon, |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Words to live by - "treat others as you would like to be treated". |
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Posted By: barrysloate
God one Jeff- that reminds me of the line "just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean there really isn't someone out there trying to kill you." |
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Posted By: martindl
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Posted By: Kevin Cummings
.... about board etiquette that can be related to the above issue: answering emails. Leon and I chatted briefly about this the other day as it is one of my pet peeves. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I don't think I've ever been attacked for asking a question here. And I'm not even sure I've ever seen a newbie treated badly for asking a question. But I must admit I don't like when people answer with "Use the search function". The search function for this site is horrible if you have a query that is more than one word. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Thank you Leon-- |
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Posted By: Joann
I agree with Dan, but maybe feel even more strongly about this. Telling someone to use the search function before asking is, to me, just about the worst response a first time poster can get. It's a complete public brush-off, and not very helpful besides. I find the search function difficult to use and that's when I'm looking for a thread I specifically remember. A first time poster isn't even going to maybe know the string to search. Heck, it may not even be obvious that there IS a search function. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
but there isn't a better disfunctional family on the net. |
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Posted By: Andrew
...but 90% of you probably wouldn't know it as I post about every three months; maybe a Buy/Sell now and then. One reason for the minimal participation is that I'm a regular on four other boards (Hot Wheels collector too), so time allotted to hobbies is near maximum. The other is that my collecting pursuits are fairly evenly split between pre and post war, i.e., half of my card questions and need for dialogue are met elsewhere. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
You know, in about the same time it takes to tell a newbie to go do a search and find the answer to his question, you can probably answer it for him. It's a kind act, and it saves him time looking for something that in the end he may not be able to find. It also helps him feel a little more a part of a community. I have a background as a teacher, so I think part of the fun I have on the board is just that- teaching and sharing knowledge. |
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Posted By: Mike
I was the one that asked about the rare 206 back yesterday. And directing me to the search function was perfect. It spoke volumes, and cut to the chase. 30 or 40 followup comments weren't necessary. Perfect. Saved a lot of time. But newbies may be unaware of the capability. But they will learn I guess. All I was trying to say was that politeness and kindness goes a long way. Isn't one of the goals, to retain as many knowledgable people as possible? And to tap into their brains? It stands to reason that if the tone in here were a bit more kind, to both the experts and the newbies, that more people would contribute? And after all isn't that what we all want? And yes, leon must have the patience of Job. Kudos to Leon. |
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Posted By: John S
My personal favorite response types are of the variety "That is the most stupid thing I have ever read" often as a retort to someone that does not agree with a previously expressed opinion. I have had plenty of disagreements with individuals on this board but always try to preface my comments with something like "I respectfully disagree". The arguments that offer the best testimony regarding the intolerance for other's viewpoints often center around grading issues. There are no answers to many of the questions posed on this board due to their subjective nature. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Don't listen to Barry -- he is bizarrely kind and patient. He is not the norm either out here or in real life. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Jeff- I've even found a "Leave it to Beaver" chatroom, and I actually responded to a question on it. But when I looked at the date of the question, it was posted about a year and a half prior. Not a lot of traffic over there. |
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Posted By: Dave
I've been lurking here for a while and just recently decided to post. I started collecting again about 3 years ago and have found this board to be a tremendous resource for pre-war material. I can't tell you how much I've learned from just reading here. If someone went through all the posts here and compiled the knowledge given... it would be a virtual encyclopedia on vintage cards. |
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Posted By: Jason L
internet behavior is always a little brave, but it is important to rein (spelling?) it in... |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I guess I don't understand what there is to be afraid of? This board is tame compared to most places on the net. |
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Posted By: Jason L
I appreciate the very kind comments... |
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Posted By: Corey R. Shanus
People should always be encouraged to ask questions without fear of being humiliated. I feel it takes more courage to admit you don't know than to pretend you do, and that anybody who will belittle you or look down upon you for asking a question is not a person whose respect is worth garnering. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Corey, |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Peter- you're only a newbie for a short time, and then you become part of the community. There are a number of people, even on this thread, who are always qualifying their posts with "I know I haven't been here very long", as if that means whatever they have to say won't be taken seriously. I say for those who lurk but who are afraid to post, just dive into the cold water. Most on the board are polite and everybody's opinion, even a newbie's, will be taken seriously. |
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Posted By: anthony
i'm a bit tired of reading the comments about card grades that the owner of the card cant control, for example. |
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Posted By: Bob Pomilla
Top Cat. The "Dead End Kid's" of the feline world. A favorite in my tender years, also. |
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Posted By: howard
The question you ask now may make you a fool for a moment. The question you never ask will surely make you a fool forever. |
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Posted By: Andrew
"Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better questions, and as a result, they get better answers." - A.R. |
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Posted By: Jim
I used to lurk here a while ago and had posted once or twice. Then my free time dwindled and I stopped posting, and then stopped visiting. I'm back now and very interested in participating. In the beginning, someone told me (and I dont care who it was) that my old avatar photo wasnt "vintage" enough. That's not the way to keep folks. |
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Posted By: Joann
lolol Jim. My avatar is one of my kites. Guess that's not very vintage either (although someday it will be vintage ... in the kiting world). Glad you had thick enough skin to return, and you're right - that's not the way to make people feel welcome. |
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