From REA to Ebay in less than 12 hours

[Shoeless Moe]

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=27982


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Joe-Jac...item1c37f886b5

[Shoeless Moe]

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=27954

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-Pennant...item1c37f8ac75


and.....

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=27952

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1888-Reachs-...item565cc42136

and......

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=27485

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-E125-Am...item565cc42c8b

[Bicem]

Dan doesn't waste time.

[calvindog]

Lolololololololol

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not sure I see the issue here.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not sure I see the issue here.

Not sure it's so much of an issue, but I'm curious why someone who has a massive mega-collection (the likes of which I'm surely jealous) would want to be doing all of this flipping for a few hundred dollars here and there, if and when a buyer is found. It just doesn't seem worth it for someone who has such a huge collection, but maybe that's just me...

I was an underbidder on one of those items, so I actually do find it annoying to see the person who outbid me did it solely for the purpose of trying to flip it the next day. So yeah, he's free to do what he wants, but it's just more annoying to see why I was outbid.

[bobbyw8469]

Loves it!!!!! LOL!..........hey.....at least they are changing venues!

[1880nonsports]

if someone did a BIN now - how would Dan handle it? I'm sure he knows what he's doing (at least in this arena :-) hi Dan). I ask because I once sold something I had won in an auction to someone the NEXT DAY before I even got the invoice. They had no idea the item wasn't in my possesion. I ASSUMED it would come in (x) amount of time and allowed for a couple extra days for the item to get to me. I had get the item in a timely fashion, worry about it not being LOST or damaged on the way to me, and it being everything is was listed to be. It was a 2500.00 item so no small change (to me at least) and I was selling it to someone who trusted me and whose relationship was important to me. After a couple of days sweating it out - I realized I put myself in a bad position all by myself. The item ended up coming in a reasonable amount of time - no harm - no foul the deal was concluded. I never did that again....................

[glchen]

There's a part of selling where you always need to regularly bring in fresh, new inventory. When I've done this in the past, I've always found that my old, stale stuff often gets another look from potential buyers.

[Bicem]

Well at least he's not listing stuff that's in the current Heritage auction.

[prestigecollectibles]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not sure I see the issue here.

His Ebay listing states, Delivery: Estimated on or before Thu. Oct. 24 to 33351

So unless he is picking up the items from REA tomorrow how could I expect delivery (by First Class Mail) by the stated time if I did a BIN today?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by scooter729

Not sure it's so much of an issue, but I'm curious why someone who has a massive mega-collection (the likes of which I'm surely jealous) would want to be doing all of this flipping for a few hundred dollars here and there, if and when a buyer is found. It just doesn't seem worth it for someone who has such a huge collection, but maybe that's just me...

I was an underbidder on one of those items, so I actually do find it annoying to see the person who outbid me did it solely for the purpose of trying to flip it the next day. So yeah, he's free to do what he wants, but it's just more annoying to see why I was outbid.

I just don't get that. I bet a high percentage of items in any auction are bought by people with the intention to resell.

[cyseymour]

You own it, you can do what you want with it.

[ullmandds]

Well if someone buys it now Dan can buy a plane ticket with some of his profits and fly over to REA to pick it up tomorrow... Then send it t0 the winner... Simple as that!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

His Ebay listing states, Delivery: Estimated on or before Thu. Oct. 24 to 33351

So unless he is picking up the items from REA tomorrow how could I expect delivery (by First Class Mail) by the stated time if I did a BIN today?

In a world of altered cards, shilled auctions, jacked up scans and lying auction houses, I can live with that. Besides, it says estimated.

[z28jd]

I collect Dots Miller cards, so that E125 is interesting for a couple reasons. One is that they used his picture from the T206, took the bat out of his hands and put a ball and glove in there instead. Never noticed that. The reason I never noticed it is because I never really looked close. I have no interest in the set due to price and it is off by a lot for me. When I saw the opening bid was $300, I said that's about 6x what I'd pay. Don't see the appeal of that set, might just be me though. $300 just seems like a ton for a die cut like that.

I thought the pose change was cool though. Here is the full picture they used for the T206, you can see it's the same

http://www.t206themonster.com/T206-Miller.html

[1880nonsports]

not easy to re-sell items from Edwards and Legendary so quickly. It's most often that the price with vig is high and the item has been seen by most of them what's interested. There are exceptions. One of my favorite dealers got his start at shows going from dealer's table to dealer's table making sales from one to the next. It takes great knowledge of the items and the market. Same case here although sometimes someone has second thoughts about an item they didn't win and will pony up to get it. Mostly it's about the passage of time - at least for me. I don't deal on the "whale scale" - or have connections to celebrities (other than Leon) and the "closet buyers" - a market in which "quick flips" from a prestiege auction might be successful.

[bobbyw8469]

not easy to re-sell items from Edwards and Legendary so quickly

+1. It would be different if it was from a less followed auction. But come on - we are talking about one of the biggest auction houses in the game. You are trying to market your items to the exact same pool of bidders that saw the auction last night. Now, if some decent time had elapsed, I might not place a bet. As it stands now, I'm selling short.

[ullmandds]

there are a number of people...many on this board...who have attempted to employ this business model over the years...they'll buy something from one of the big auction houses...then put it in the BST the next day...or week at an overinflated price.

I've always wondered WTF these people are thinking? WE're all looking at these auctions together...discussing them ad nauseum on this and other sites. If I didn't want to pay what it sold for in the big auction house...why would I now want it for 30-50% more?!

I'm sure Dan thought it was a good deal and doesn't mind having it in his inventory for a while...and that's fine...but those that think they'll sell these "flips" overnight...that's just crazy!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I've always wondered WTF these people are thinking? WE're all looking at these auctions together...discussing them ad nauseum on this and other sites. If I didn't want to pay what it sold for in the big auction house...why would I now want it for 30-50% more?!

WE might not but there are a lot of other collectors out there; the market is wider than just this audience. I've flipped stuff profitably straight out of auctions and straight out of eBay sales. Just depends on the item and on finding a willing buyer. Also, if the item is a good one and is rare, it isn't necessarily a bad thing to hold in inventory. I've seen things I've owned for a while appreciate well past the point where I'd have happily flipped them. Dan's an old pro at this so he clearly knows his business model.

[ullmandds]

obviously...you are right, Adam!

[Jacklitsch]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

obviously...you are right, Adam!

He usually is.

[hammer]

Maybe it was his card to begin with and he broke the top bidder. Isnt Rea the Rob Lifson in the book about the Wagner card.

Nothing wrong with flipping. I work in the public school system and flip to support my affliction...er, the hobby. Proud to say I nickeled and dimed my way into a 1951 Bowman Mantle in SGC 55 free and clear this calendar year and a 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson in PSA 5 last year. I realize this is off-topic and not pre-war related by there's nothing wrong with buying with the intent to sell, regardless of the turnaround time.

[Bestdj777]

There are a few rare cards that I will purchase every single time I see them for sale and turn around and flip them. If you get them for less than you think they are actually worth, why not right?

[ElCabron]

Any chance the whiners who are so concerned about Dan's "huge collection" can shut the hell up and not be so obsessed about what he does or doesn't do? The fact that he's built a great collection seems to offend some of you, and your collection envy slips out into posts on a somewhat regular basis. Maybe one solution would be keeping a better focus on your own collection instead of Dan's and maybe someday it might grow to be as big as Dan's. Think of it as baseball card Viagra.

Also, as soon as someone buys one of Dan's ebay listings and doesn't receive the item, or doesn't receive it in a timely manner, it might be worthy of a post. Until then, you're just making a strong argument that "haters gonna hate."

-Ryan

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I just don't get that. I bet a high percentage of items in any auction are bought by people with the intention to resell.

I doubt it's a "high" percentage which are bought with the intent to immediately re-sell. Of course some are bought for that reason, and I likely may sell some of my things at some point (I'm not planning to be buried with these cards).

But I would be really surprised if it's a high percentage of items which are bought solely for the intent to immediately resell.

Originally Posted by scooter729

I doubt it's a "high" percentage which are bought with the intent to immediately re-sell. Of course some are bought for that reason, and I likely may sell some of my things at some point (I'm not planning to be buried with these cards).

But I would be really surprised if it's a high percentage of items which are bought solely for the intent to immediately resell.

Still not sure why it matters what he, or anyone else for that matter, chooses to do with his or her merchandise?

[freakhappy]

Not sure that the OP said he had an issue with it. I think it was more of a "hey, look at this" type of thing.

I agree with some here that say if you can make money off of reselling an item, why not??

[bobbyw8469]

Still not sure why it matters what he, or anyone else for that matter, chooses to do with his or her merchandise?

It doesn't. Some of us just think it is funny though. Sort of like the commercial where someone bids on and wins a work of art through an auction house (presumably Sotheby's) then wants to turn around and immediately run it back through the exact same auction. I think that commercial is funny, as I think the immediate flip before one even has his items in hand is funny as well.

[Shoeless Moe]

Exactly, I flip myself....was just pointing it out......just the quickness of it to Ebay, and the comments on here made it worthy of conversation.

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It doesn't. Some of us just think it is funny though. Sort of like the commercial where someone bids on and wins a work of art through an auction house (presumably Sotheby's) then wants to turn around and immediately run it back through the exact same auction. I think that commercial is funny, as I think the immediate flip before one even has his items in hand is funny as well.

I see where you're coming from. I guess its less noteworthy for a nickel and dimer like myself because I do that all the time...its what keeps the hobby viable for me on a modest income

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Exactly, I flip myself....was just pointing it out......just the quickness of it to Ebay, and the comments on here made it worthy of conversation.

No, you're right. Absolutely nothing wrong with pointing it out...I just wouldn't want a thread created every time someone noticed me doing it that's all. Of course in that case I'd be embarrassed seeing as how I'm not above flipping for a $20 profit, lol!!

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

There are a few rare cards that I will purchase every single time I see then for sale and turn around and flip them. If you get them for less than you think they are actually worth, why not right?

Bingo!

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I've always wondered WTF these people are thinking? WE're all looking at these auctions together...discussing them ad nauseum on this and other sites. If I didn't want to pay what it sold for in the big auction house...why would I now want it for 30-50% more?!

Because you just never know. Just today I discovered a card that I never knew existed thanks of this forum, and now it is firmly on my want list. REA's book came and I scanned it a few times, took note of a couple things, and let the auction pass as there wasn't really anything I had to have. Then Rhett posted the Moonlight Graham PC in the pickup thread and my jaw dropped. Not everyone in the hobby follows the auction scene and I was bidding in the auction and did not even realize what the card was (hell, I don't think REA did either based upon the description). If Rhett posted that card in the B/S/T for the price of the entire lot or slightly higher I would strongly consider it.

[danmckee]

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

[barrysloate]

That is Dans nicest and sweetest post ever!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

You're just an ole fuddy duddy....we know you. I too have listed stuff for sale with high prices because I didn't want to sell. Two years ago at the National I did it with one full case. One guy argued with me for at least 30 minutes about trading for a card I had 10k on. I told him cash only and I was firm on it. He never understood even AFTER I told him I didn't really want to sell. He kept on saying, "but you have a price on it" and I kept on saying, "because everyone keeps asking but I don't want to sell".......He couldn't grasp the concept.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

You're just an ole fuddy duddy....we know you. I too have listed stuff for sale with high prices because I didn't want to sell. Two years ago at the National I did it with one full case. One guy argued with me for at least 30 minutes about trading for a card I had 10k on. I told him cash only and I was firm on it. He never understood even AFTER I told him I didn't really want to sell. He kept on saying, "but you have a price on it" and I kept on saying, "because everyone keeps asking but I don't want to sell".......He couldn't grasp the concept.

Exactly Leon! and if anyone wants to hit the BIN please feel free as I will have the items in hand quicker than you can imagine! I pride myself on fast shipping!

[Runscott]

We all handle this hobby differently. I don't know what portion of Dan's collection is represented on ebay, but I used to put almost all of mine up for sale. I figured everything has a price if someone wants to try to pry it out of my hands, but in the meantime I can enjoy it.

I kind of like Dan's business model.

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

thanks for the response..

this seems to be happening more and more on EBAY...its becoming a place to showcase items, with no intention of selling them (thus very high prices)

I have thought that this is what many people use ebay for, but your are the first to admit it...

it has nothing to do with you, but I get frustrated weaving through all the overpriced BIN from people who only want to show them off..

ebay should make a new area that allows people to do this, like Zillow has "make me an offer I cant refuse"...that way it doesn't get into the same spot of things that actually are trying to be sold and clutter them up...

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

thanks for the response..

this seems to be happening more and more on EBAY...its becoming a place to showcase items, with no intention of selling them (thus very high prices)

I have thought that this is what many people use ebay for, but your are the first to admit it...

it has nothing to do with you, but I get frustrated weaving through all the overpriced BIN from people who only want to show them off..

ebay should make a new area that allows people to do this, like Zillow has "make me an offer I cant refuse"...that way it doesn't get into the same spot of things that actually are trying to be sold and clutter them up...

Oh I can completely sympathize with this statement. I have worked my way around this issue as a buyer by "blocking" certain sellers from my global searches.

There is a place on the advanced search when you are setting up a global search say like "T206", where you can list certain sellers to block.

There are a few sellers that list mainly mainstream pre-war cards and are very high in my opinion and the same stuff keeps popping up so I have these blocked on my searches.

To avoid my items you would just need to block darby-s as a seller.

I hope this helps

take care
Dan

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Oh I can completely sympathize with this statement. I have worked my way around this issue as a buyer by "blocking" certain sellers from my global searches.

There is a place on the advanced search when you are setting up a global search say like "T206", where you can list certain sellers to block.

There are a few sellers that list mainly mainstream pre-war cards and are very high in my opinion and the same stuff keeps popping up so I have these blocked on my searches.

To avoid my items you would just need to block darby-s as a seller.

I hope this helps

take care
Dan

thanks for the response...that will help...

and no, I will not block you...

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

thanks for the response...that will help...

and no, I will not block you...

Ha! No worries, I wouldn't have taken it personally.

I felt your pain as a buyer and a searcher!

Take care
Dan

[calvindog]

I think someone has hacked Dan's Net 54 account.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I think someone has hacked Dan's Net 54 account.

Jeff, this is TOO FUNNY!! I keep pinching myself as I read Dan's posts in this thread to make sure that what my eyes are seeing is real! Hey Dan, just funnin' ya!

Hope "Pops" is doing well,
Val

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I think someone has hacked Dan's Net 54 account.

Heh...no kidding. I was hoping for a fight!

[bcornell]

Anyone who loves graded cards as much as this guy can't be all bad.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Heh...no kidding. I was hoping for a fight!

I'd settle for a drunken rant!

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Anyone who loves graded cards as much as this guy can't be all bad.

No joke, Bill. That is the look of pure euphoria! That's the little kid inside coming out!

Dan, you obviously know what you're doing. Though I've only seen the tip of the ice berg as far as your collection is concerned, why not put it all on Ebay, especially if you have a lot of rare pieces? If the pieces don't sell, everybody gets to see them. If somebody is willing to meet your asking price, then you've made a nice profit, and enjoyed the piece as part of your collection prior to the sale. You get money to roll over into other rare items, and another collector has acquired an incredible piece to showcase in their own collection. Sounds like a win for both parties involved.

And if you were buying to resell for a higher prices, why would anybody take issue with that? I wouldn't. If I saw a piece that I felt were strongly undervalued, I wouldn't have any issue with purchasing, and selling it at market value. The seller got their asking price, and any research I have done, or knowledge I have acquired in identifying a piece that is undervalued will ultimately benefit me.

Good luck in your business endeavors, and I hope to see more of your collection in the future.

Bill