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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Anyone know....what's happening with GAI ? |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: MVSNYC
i wonder if they are finally backing down a bit from the two-headed industry monster, PSA/SGC ? |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
MIKE S |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: MVSNYC
Ted- i thought my post was pretty clear... |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- all my GAI cards underperform against my PSA and SGC ones. My guess is they are losing market share, and not growing. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Thanx for clarifying what you meant by "backing down". |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Bobby Binder
GAI is not falling off the map by any means. Because I track every graded card on eBay they now have more cards then ever being offered for sale. You just do not see them in the Pre-30's section on eBay. But in all other areas football, 60's baseball, etc.. I am seeing more and more especially with their new slab design. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Jimmy
GAI cards have done very poorly for me the last few months and I never tried selling them before. I thought I would buy some to give them a try to see what the interest might be because I have a few local dealers that have a lot of them that work with GAI. I most likely will pass on buying them for now and it will be interesting if they make it to the Boston Show coming up in a few weeks. They have setup there for the past few years |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Steve Murray
Would love to see a scan of the new holder design. That has always been one of my problems with GAI...it's unattractive slab. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Tony Andrea
Hi Ted - |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Tony Andrea
Here ya go Steve. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I don't acquire graded cards for my collection....I have only about 26 vintage cards (graded 5-7) currently in my personal collection. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted is probably correct that an accurately graded GAI card will sell for about the same as the other two companies. But I've seen a number of GAI's that look overgraded, so I think those will suffer. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
My experience with GAI is that they are more consistent than PSA. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- even you know that is too small a sample to make a determination. Both GAI and PSA are inconsistent, SGC less so. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Joe D.
I think the new slab design is just as unattractive as the prior one. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Dave F
my only GAI graded card...and they put it in upside down! |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: JimB
I recently submitted five cards to PSA that were previously graded by GAI. I thought I would have better luck if I cracked them out of their holders. I was right. Here are the results: |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Bob
I have had a few problems with GAI with respect to card delivery but their grading has, especially on caramel cards, always been more consistent than PSA and close to SGC. The one thing I like about GAI is they don't crucify a card with a very tiny bit of back damage and a great front. They will drop the grade but not throw it under the bus like SGC. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Thanks for making my point....although anecdotal, your experience, nevertheless, supports what I have said here (in a prior post) |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: leon
When I spoke with Mike Baker at the last National he was pretty enthusiastic about what was going on at GAI. He knew of the previous issues and was working to improve on them. From Jim B's very small sample it looks like they are getting better.....I got a card in one of the new holders recently and it looked pretty good.... |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Your post is encouraging....the rumors at the Philly Show this weekend were that GAI's No Show....was a "No Go" ! |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: leon
I am not sure if you are aware but Derek Grady just joined Heritage Auctions.....along with Lee Iskowitz (sp?).....I know both and both are fine gentlemen.......best regards (it's a small hobby) |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Correct me if I'm wrong....wasn't Derek with Mastro since he left SGC ? |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: leon
Yes, Derek was there for a few years and went on to pursue a different opportunity....I am sure it was amicable and I am happy to have Derek (whom I count as a friend in the hobby) working for an auction house that is right down the street from me, though I am not sure if he is relocating. I am sure he and I will go to lunch or dinner when he is in the Dallas area (which is where Heritage is based)....best regards |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Eric Brehm
I don't have much personal experience with GAI, but I did notice this: in their Annual Reports to stockholders from 2003 to 2005, Collectors Universe (which includes PSA) listed Beckett Sportscard Grading and Global Authentication as their primary competitors in the sportscard authentication and grading business. But in their 2006 Annual Report, they listed Beckett and Sportscard Guaranty (SGC) as their primary competitors, with no mention of GAI. So apparently in their eyes at least, SGC now presents more of a challenge to them than GAI does. Perhaps that is based on an analysis of changes in market share, but who knows. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
My first experience with having cards graded was with SGC (several years ago) at the Ft Washington Show. I submitted a bunch of |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: quan
of all the gai cards i've had (small sample size of about 25-30), we (me/sgc/psa) thought about 60-70% of them were overgraded...they were all t&e cards...some were grossly overgraded by 2 grades. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Bob
If you were to base your opinion of the company only on face to face meetings when submitting cards for grading at the last National, I would rate GAI over SGC and PSA. I know that many more things enter in to the submission process but GAI was like the old Hertz car ads about being #2 and trying harder. The PSA people I encountered acted like they were doing me a favor by grading my cards and the SGC people, if they didn't know you, made you wait and wait and wait forever while they were busy talking to friends and each other. I thought the SGC people were knowledgeable but their customer service-friendliness meter was low. I was not alone, many of the collectors I talked with about this agreed but the general consensus was "what are you going to do?" as most preferred to submit prewar cards to SGC. |
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GAI....No Show at Philly Show ? ?
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
"This really impressed me that Derek was seeking |
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