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Old 11-27-2018, 01:46 PM
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Both the Parent card and the Sullivan card were sold to an eBay masked ID of "a**a". So same buyer for both off of eBay.

The Marquard card had a masked ID of "b**o" so a different buyer, but it was also in 2018 whereas the others were in 2015, so easily could be the same person with a different eBay ID. (Though the feedback screenshot via eBay shows this person as "f**f", they appear on VCP as "b**o". Not sure why there is a difference.)

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Old 11-27-2018, 01:53 PM
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Default Great detective work!

It's just the tip of the iceberg. Those T206, Goudey, etc vintage autograph collections are loaded with fakes. And if they are not, everyone will think so anyway.

Too much money and greed.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:54 PM
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Both the Parent card and the Sullivan card were sold to an eBay masked ID of "a**a". So same buyer for both off of eBay.

The Marquard card had a masked ID of "b**o" so a different buyer, but it was also in 2018 whereas the others were in 2015, so easily could be the same person with a different eBay ID. (Though the feedback screenshot via eBay shows this person as "f**f", they appear on VCP as "b**o". Not sure why there is a difference.)
Those blocked ebay names change sometimes, so we either have 4 letters from the username or the user changed their name since Feb.
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:00 PM
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I found another.
Here's the worthpoint link: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...eet-1737649372
And a better picture of the auto (t206collector I hope it's okay I reference your photo): http://www.signedt206.com/other-peop...ktbffyldzycqzp

The creasing is identical. There is a tobacco mark that was removed on his crotch but the missing cardboard is in the same location.
I'm sure a ton more fakes are about to be unsurfaced. This took me 2 minutes to find.
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:04 PM
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Wow.. this is about to get bad, already 4 examples in not a long time of looking.. Good work by you guys
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:06 PM
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Wow.. this is about to get bad, already 4 examples in not a long time of looking.. Good work by you guys
Might move on to Goudey and Playball.
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:09 PM
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Might move on to Goudey and Playball.
I know theres been talk before that a bunch of the Ruth signed Goudeys were fakes.
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:23 PM
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Trying to keep track of them all, the Rhoades was in Hunt Auctions, in February 2016. This one got away from me on the auction block...

https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...9&lot_num=1009
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:22 PM
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Both the Parent card and the Sullivan card were sold to an eBay masked ID of "a**a". So same buyer for both off of eBay.

The Marquard card had a masked ID of "b**o" so a different buyer, but it was also in 2018 whereas the others were in 2015, so easily could be the same person with a different eBay ID. (Though the feedback screenshot via eBay shows this person as "f**f", they appear on VCP as "b**o". Not sure why there is a difference.)
It's the same buyer, and I'll say it's the forger. No such thing as coincidences
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:04 PM
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Both the Parent card and the Sullivan card were sold to an eBay masked ID of "a**a". So same buyer for both off of eBay.

The Marquard card had a masked ID of "b**o" so a different buyer, but it was also in 2018 whereas the others were in 2015, so easily could be the same person with a different eBay ID. (Though the feedback screenshot via eBay shows this person as "f**f", they appear on VCP as "b**o". Not sure why there is a difference.)
The letters aren't always the same on the ID's even if it's the same buyer.

The last sale of the Parent I found was August 22 2015 on ebay.
There were two other cards purchased by the same buyer.

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Here's the scans from that sale

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Old 11-27-2018, 04:26 PM
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I have never been interested in autographs for this reason. Way too easy for some people to copy a signature. I’m sure there are tons of fakes out there. Why trust an “experts” opinion.
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I have never been interested in autographs for this reason. Way too easy for some people to copy a signature. I’m sure there are tons of fakes out there. Why trust an “experts” opinion.
The Sullivan fake is copied almost exactly from this index card: http://loveofthegameauctions.com/Lot...ventoryid=3920

Same positioning and spacing of the letters.
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I want to thank Manny, Patrick, Brock and anyone else helping uncover this forger.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:01 PM
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I want to thank Manny, Patrick, Brock and anyone else helping uncover this forger.
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sucks!!

paul I am feeling for you

I have a Snodgrass double signed front and back......i'll look for the scan...
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