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Hi steve this is crazy end the season
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if they want to play play so bi it..plus there are lot more jobs that just concession and parking at risk......i think they will need another breakout before contemplate another season and to address another posters point, the players are most likely asymptomatic.. its not going to be a 'real' championship....all hands on deck! A lot of minor league players who never would of had a chance to play MLB are getting that chance this year....you will see years from now a lot of MLB players who only played 98% or more of their MLB career in 2020. Florida covid positivity rate is at 11% right now that last few days..if in a week or so its in single digits....it would be getting close to 5% which most experts agree you can have an open economy at that point.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-27-2020 at 09:52 AM. |
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Why is it important to note they're asymptomatic? That has nothing to do with your ability to spread the virus to someone who isn't. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.
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The point was that they didnt know they were sick the poster seems to think that the players who were sick should of let people know, my point is they probably didnt know they were sick ..
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The Marlins did not consult the Phillies about their decision. Last edited by packs; 07-27-2020 at 10:02 AM. |
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Right we already knew about those 3., we are now talking about the ones that were not removed from playing yesterday...they may not have been symptomatic is the point..
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No, I think the point is the Phillies probably wouldn't have played in the game if they knew the Marlins were contending with a possible outbreak in their clubhouse. I think the secondary point is the Marlins should not have played a game knowing they were potentially dealing with an outbreak in their clubhouse.
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If this percentage of their roster has it, and was asymptomatic, a heck of a lot more of MLB may have it and are asymptomatic. At what point do we let them play? When not a single person tests positive after then how many days? Try to have a post you dont edit, I did see one this thread! One post at a time my friend.
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To think Clint Frazier was called a sheep for wearing a mask during game play.
He was rewarded by being sent back down to the training facility after two games and no game play. I used to think he was a bit of a knucklehead, but it turns out he's the smartest player on that team. |
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MLB has been playing without the Marlins for the majority of the time since basically 2004. Just continue the season.
They expanded the rosters for a reason. Many flu outbreaks have occurred over the years and the MLB didn't shut the season down. Those who didn't want to "risk" getting COVID-19 had the option to opt out. Those who were ok with the "risk" are playing. So Play Ball.
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I say call the season out of an abundance of caution. I "watched" a game. Not sure much will be lost. As mentioned the fan noise back track and the cardboard cuts out is a bit too artificial for my taste. Players did not seem to be that into it either. Just another cost to outlasting the pandemic.
Anyone know what the TV ratings have been for the games that have been played?
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I don't know (and will not opine on) whether baseball, or any other sport, should be played this year. But I do know this thread has the making of a massive train wreck. The discussion will 1000% devolve into fighting and politics.
I am claiming "I told you so now". Boy will this be a good read (unfortunately). |
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In peoples humble opinion, How long do we keep mlb cancelled? Until not a single player test positive for how many days? What if MLB players are immune to these novel virus symptoms, but older coaches and owners and ones with comorbidities are? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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I thought you were suggesting it was safe for asymptomatic players to play. Sorry for misunderstanding.
MLB policy is that if a player tests positive the player has to test negative twice 24 hours apart and have no fever for 72 hours before they can become active again. |
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Whole season just seems forced and unnecessary. And that was my opinion a month ago. Doesn’t feel like a real season at all. And I think it sends a
Message to kids in little league, college ball, etc. that athletes don’t need to follow the rules that are being articulated. Players not even following the safety protocols their union fought for. Went to a little league game last week and hardly a mask in view Anywhere. |
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Finally, a ray of sanity. Just curious though. Where is "around here"?
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Same here, little league etc are playing but the Major Leagues need to shut down ? I thought this is why the rosters were expanded ! If players got sick from the virus the additional players would step in from their pratice facilities. If you test positive leave the team for 14 days and get a negative test before you return and let the rest of the players play. Again the players are not wearing masks in the dugout and not practicing social distancing.
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This is diffferent
This is not about freedom to work; its about freedom from involuntary exposure to a potential lethal pathogen. I don't care if someone wants to work in their basement. I care if someone wants to work in a physical space that has any non-zero potential to kill someone else. I watched the Nationals games. Repeated non-mask wearing, physical contact, no social distancing, and that affects the players AND the staff, clubhouse staff, dugout staff, media, etc., etc. It also affects and puts at risk people in hotels, airports, and anywhere the players go or gather for any reason (see Clippers’ Lou Williams story). I admit I'm a flaming liberal, but here I am pro-life -- mine, yours, our families, and our neighbors. There is NO good reason, except entertainment, for this dangerous environment to host sports in the manner MLB has chosen. The season is an illegitimate joke anyway. Why risk players' health, their families health, and their organizations and communities' health?
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I'm in Cleveland, and I don't consider groups of people getting together like this to be particularly smart.
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I wish they would just end the season. Players opting out, others in quarantine for two weeks at a time, short schedule, half the teams get a playoff seed...if my team won it all this year, I wouldn't consider them a World Series winner. I would rather everyone stay healthy than continue this farce.
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Large parts of the country that are now seeing significant increases in cases are places that also weren't initially taking the virus very seriously. Somehow other countries were able to get things under control by having a nationwide strategy that relied on the best scientific evidence available at the time. It's unfortunate that the same thing couldn't happen in the US.
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I think that ship sailed long ago. LOL
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I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.
In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please. Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease. PATHETIC! Play ball! Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke! Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements. IDIOTS!!! |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcmwPYCUysw This whole year is pointless... feel free to pee in my Cheerios if you're offended by that. What? Nobody enjoys it when the broadcast crew raises the volume on the cheering when the home team hits one over the fence or someone makes a great play? That was the beauty of baseball - over a long season, things usually "even out" so to speak. IF it lasts 60 games, it'll be interesting to see how it all ends... I'd like nothing more than watching the San Francisco Giants battling it out with the the Kansas City Royals for the WS title.
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interesting to see this thread with peoples opinions and than what really happened...haha
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Another adult who thinks kids playing little league is the most important thing in the universe. A few in my family. As if you have any freakin idea if some kid in the leagues' 80 year old grand mother died from something she got at a family reunion from someone who got it from her grandson who got it at a little league game.
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Massachusetts is running around 2-300 new cases a day, and 10-20 deaths. We were about half that a month ago. The people I know in the medical field also say that just because you don't die doesn't mean you aren't messed up, sometimes permanently. By all means though, keep on not taking it seriously. Quote:
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the stats are skewed...yes one is too many but we cant prevent all death in everything....the increase in murders of under 35 year olds from this year to last as already exceeded the number of under 35 deaths to covid... i really think CNN and Fox etc should keep a toll of deaths from other causes they exceed last years numbers when they put up the covid deaths to keep everything in prospective |
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the risks are very low.....shutting down things can also be deemed against the public good and the public good can be argued to being better served as not shutting things down.....its not all in a vacuum. They allow group social protesting right..thats considered much bigger than the pandemic (according to health experts on CNN at least) ..too me if there are other things more important than the pandemic than dont really need to get into the public good argument about some ballplayers.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-27-2020 at 02:54 PM. |
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If the rule were simply wear masks when u are away from home regardless of your occupation things would be different. Until that is implemented I doubt very seriously that any endeavor to revert to "normalcy" will succeed. Just wear a mask!!
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Were the season to continue, I would simply have my catcher repeatedly cough and sneeze and blow his nose. No batter would want to get anywhere near the plate, and thus...
5.04 (b) (6.02) The Batter’s Box (3) If the batter refuses to take his position in the batter’s box during his time at bat, the umpire shall call a strike on the batter. The ball is dead, and no runners may advance. After the penalty, the batter may take his proper position and the regular ball and strike count shall continue. If the batter does not take his proper position before three strikes have been called, the batter shall be declared out. You'd be able to toss a perfect game without ever throwing a single pitch.
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Originally Posted by oldjudge View Post
It’s not a free country, Jake. There are laws to restrict freedoms for the public good. The public good would be served if baseball was shut down before these teams travel around the country infecting as they go. Quote:
I stand by my comments from years ago that seemed to age a lot better than some others posters comments on this thread Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 12-12-2022 at 12:19 PM. |
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