FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 4.5

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the card could have been returned last summer, maybe that has some logic to it? Or can you just sit on an altered card, hope it goes up, then expect PSA to pay for the appreciation?

Had the card gone down in value it would've been to the advantage of PSA.

If he'd been compensated last summer he could've then gotten an unaltered Jackie and realized the same profit.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Had the card gone down in value it would've been to the advantage of PSA.

If he'd been compensated last summer he could've then gotten an unaltered Jackie and realized the same profit.

But PSA wouldn't have funded it. A buyer would have.

[samosa4u]

Reading this thread just makes me feel so happy that I picked up my PSA 4 Leaf Jackie RIGHT BEFORE the pandemic. I remember the seller wanted like five to a thousand dollars more, and instead of arguing with him, I just gave him the money. I remember him telling me "listen, this card is going to be worth ten grand one day - you hear me?" I thought to myself "yeah ... and that will probably be in ten years!" Instead, it happened in like ten weeks! LOL!

Anyhow, anyone who chops up a Leaf Jackie should have his d*ck chopped off instead!

[jad22]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Reading this thread just makes me feel so happy that I picked up my PSA 4 Leaf Jackie RIGHT BEFORE the pandemic. I remember the seller wanted like five to a thousand dollars more, and instead of arguing with him, I just gave him the money. I remember him telling me "listen, this card is going to be worth ten grand one day - you hear me?" I thought to myself "yeah ... and that will probably be in ten years!" Instead, it happened in like ten weeks! LOL!

Anyhow, anyone who chops up a Leaf Jackie should have his d*ck chopped off instead!

With all the money they have made they could buy a gold one to replace it.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by jad22

with all the money they have made they could buy a gold one to replace it.

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jad22

With all the money they have made they could buy a gold one to replace it.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

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Anyhow, anyone who chops up a Leaf Jackie should have his d*ck chopped off instead!

I know everyone always assumes that the chop happens for the purpose of deceiving a grader and getting a higher number flip, but that's NOT always the case. In fact, I think it's why some of the trimmed cards make it into a holder.
They juuuust make it inside size tolerances and the edges aren't 'fresh'.
Someone long ago, a kid, a collector looking for it to fit inside a display, made a decision to slice and dice but age has since hidden some of that obvious alteration.

It's kind of like the new video replay rules we see in sports.
If you can't be sure it's been trimmed, then it's unfair to guess that it was in all likelihood but not without doubt.

Of course this doesn't apply necessarily to the Jackie or some other obvious trimmed cards like below, but sometimes what's posted and postulated to be trimmed may pass the standard inspections TPG's use to make their call.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

I know everyone always assumes that the chop happens for the purpose of deceiving a grader and getting a higher number flip, but that's NOT always the case. In fact, I think it's why some of the trimmed cards make it into a holder.
They juuuust make it inside size tolerances and the edges aren't 'fresh'.
Someone long ago, a kid, a collector looking for it to fit inside a display, made a decision to slice and dice but age has since hidden some of that obvious alteration.

Hawk,

I think that ninety-nine percent of trimmed cards were done for the purpose of deceiving a grader and to get a higher grade. I also think that majority of these Leafs were chopped up by the same person. He also chopped up majority of the 51' and 53' Parkhurst hockey cards as well. He has been doing this for a long time.

Nice Satch.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Hawk,

I think that ninety-nine percent of trimmed cards were done for the purpose of deceiving a grader and to get a higher grade. I also think that majority of these Leafs were chopped up by the same person. He also chopped up majority of the 51' and 53' Parkhurst hockey cards as well. He has been doing this for a long time.

Nice Satch.

Don't forget 55 Bowman, 39 Play Ball, and 52 Bowman and Look N See.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Don't forget 55 Bowman, 39 Play Ball, and 52 Bowman and Look N See.

And this guy is still sitting at home chilling, eh?

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Hawk,

I think that ninety-nine percent of trimmed cards were done for the purpose of deceiving a grader and to get a higher grade. I also think that majority of these Leafs were chopped up by the same person. He also chopped up majority of the 51' and 53' Parkhurst hockey cards as well. He has been doing this for a long time.

Nice Satch.

That's super sad to hear re consistent fraudster choppers.
Ok, I'll get back on the pecker re-sizing bandwagon.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Don't forget T206. Every time I see a skinny sharp cornered T206 I wonder. All in how many altered cards in holders? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of Thousands?