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Old 11-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Hi,

I’ve been looking for a particular card for some time now. Given my budget, I’m expecting to be in the 2-4 grade for this card. I came across an example which has an immaculate front (probably a 6-7) but on the back there is pretty heavy tape residue which resulted in the overall card getting a 2 grade. I wanted to get the groups thoughts on how heavily you’d weigh the fact that the front is probably as nice a “2” grade as you’ll find vs the residue on the back?

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Old 11-11-2022, 10:24 AM
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My favorite kind of card.

If the front attributes are really strong but the technical grade is the result of a back flaw, I'm all in.
It usually results in a very reasonably priced card.
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Old 11-11-2022, 12:15 PM
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I have no problem buying a lower grade card with a clean front and residue on the reverse.
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Old 11-11-2022, 02:35 PM
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How rarely does the card in the grade you want come up for sale?

If the answer is not too often, and the price is good/decent on this tape-damaged one, I imagine grabbing it to say, "Finally got one!" would be in order. Therefore, you could check it off of your list while looking to upgrade it when the situation presents itself in the future.
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Old 11-11-2022, 03:34 PM
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Generally, we like and buy cards bc of the image on the front. However, in prewar vintage, sometimes the advertisement on the back is what drives the desire to own a card. If your example is the former, then Go For It and don’t look back. You likely got a relative steal based on a technical grade/flaw. However, if your example is the latter, then do not buy a damaged back when the back is the reason to acquire.
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Old 11-11-2022, 06:42 PM
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I think it matters if it's a popular card. If it's a Mantle, Cobb, or something like that there's a better chance of resale later if need be. If it's something that might not have as large of a pool of interested buyers (maybe it's vintage football from an obscure set) and you have to get past the back damage then you might not be able to sell it as quickly if you get a chance to upgrade or if you decide to move on.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:05 PM
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I recall some of the several times I've been told a certain something I'm about to mention. And I recall being told this gem a few times in person. Yet several times, as I've collected, I've fallen victim to disregarding this bit of advice:

If you settle for a card in a worse condition than you normally collect, then one day you'll find yourself buying the card a second time.

I've found that too many times my collecting habits have led to me buying a few cards twice.

So, that means I'd most likely buy that tape residue on the back card. One day I'd try my hand at removing a bit of the tape to see how that goes. If it goes well, I try to remove a bit more. If it goes badly, then I stop tinkering with tape residue removal.

Is the tape residue on your card so much that you'll eventually buy then card again? If you're certain it is, then pass on it. If you think it's a good card for your collection, then great!

Have you bought a card twice before? Upgrading where you bought a filler card first? I heard of that with coins, and then stamps, 50+ years ago. It applies to ball cards, too.

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Old 11-11-2022, 08:36 PM
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As others have said, it depends on the card. Here are my two examples - the tape residue on the back of my Aaron doesn’t bother me in the least because of how sharp the front, surface and corners are. That’s all I care about for this card.

The Hooks, though, I bought for the Hindu back, and that paper loss on the back greatly diminishes my feelings towards the card.

If the back matters to you, don’t settle.
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Generally, we like and buy cards bc of the image on the front. However, in prewar vintage, sometimes the advertisement on the back is what drives the desire to own a card.
The back advertisement means very little to me. I collect for the player on the front.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:52 PM
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If you settle for a card in a worse condition than you normally collect, then one day you'll find yourself buying the card a second time.

I've found that too many times my collecting habits have led to me buying a few cards twice.
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I hope to buy a card twice….or 3 or 4 times. If I’m at a place financially where I can afford a Mantle that’s a 2, I’ll buy it because it’s real and it’s a Mantle. If a year later I can afford a three or a four then I will buy it again and I will keep upgrading until I acquire the best one that I can afford.
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Old 11-12-2022, 03:26 PM
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As others have said, it depends on the card. Here are my two examples - the tape residue on the back of my Aaron doesn’t bother me in the least because of how sharp the front, surface and corners are. That’s all I care about for this card.

The Hooks, though, I bought for the Hindu back, and that paper loss on the back greatly diminishes my feelings towards the card.

If the back matters to you, don’t settle.
Agreed, great Aaron, and that back tape mark matters not.

I have a few cards where if it weren't for some back damage or writing on the back then I wouldn't have been able to afford them. It's not always a good tradeoff, but sometimes you can strike the right balance.
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Old 11-12-2022, 04:09 PM
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Thank you everyone for all the feedback and appreciate that the sentiment is largely to go for it. Here is a pic of both sides of the card for reference.
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Old 11-12-2022, 04:10 PM
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The back advertisement means very little to me. I collect for the player on the front.

I definitely see the point, but as you’ll see below this isn’t the case for this card so I don’t think the back is as key for me personally…
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My favorite kind of card.

If the front attributes are really strong but the technical grade is the result of a back flaw, I'm all in.
It usually results in a very reasonably priced card.
If you buy it, please show front and back images here.
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Old 11-13-2022, 06:01 AM
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The tape residue wouldn’t bother me one bit. The price on the other hand would….unless it’s a great deal I would pass…..inquiring with one of the restoration guys about the possibility of removing that stain may help me pay a little more…wouldn’t bother getting it done but the knowledge could sway me.
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Old 11-13-2022, 07:03 AM
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There's a reason they put the front of the card in the front of the holder. That's a great looking 2. If you waited for another one you might get priced out of anything at all, instead you got a beauty. Congrats!
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Old 11-13-2022, 07:30 AM
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A super card!

We're all alike, we like old ball cards; we're all different, we like them in different ways. Not graded or graded, pristine condition or a card we're not afraid to touch. If someone gave me that card, I'd be totally content with it. I might break it out of that holder, but that's a great card.
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Old 11-13-2022, 08:28 AM
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Thank you everyone for all the feedback and appreciate that the sentiment is largely to go for it. Here is a pic of both sides of the card for reference.
Gorgeous card! The tape is certainly noteworthy, but the front is really great looking, and that card is all about the front. Indeed, but for the tape, the front likely wouldn’t look so good (preserved in album for years instead of handled, bent and created). If the price is right, I would get that ASAP and enjoy.

Here is my t206 Plank. Very similar situation. The front is incredible but the back has that tape residue. Without the residue, the card would grade much higher. I love the card and would not trade it for most of the 4s out there, because this is better looking.

Your Mays is the same. Get the card and enjoy owning an amazing example of a Mays rookie
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This is a great example of what you are talking about, but glue and paper loss rather than tape. I probably paid either right at or slightly above SGC 1 pricing for this card because the front was so nice.

That Mays is BEAUTIFUL! That being said, it's still a 2, so don't overpay for a 2.
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Great looking card and I would not have any problem with that tape residue on the back. Here is an example of a card that I have with tape residue. The front certainly (in my mind) carries much more weight.
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