1923-24 Billiken complete set!!!

[ElCabron]

I haven’t posted here in a long time, but there’s an item in my current auction that is too incredible not to share. So I paid Leon in order to be able to pimp it a little and get some more eyes on it. It’s lot #1 in the auction. A complete 1923-24 Billiken set from Cuba! Nothing even close to this has ever offered for sale publicly. In the 35 auctions I’ve done in the last 21 years, this is the single greatest lot I’ve ever offered. The lot is not mine, but the consignor is a good friend of mine and I personally watched him painstakingly put this set together card by card over the past 25 years. It ends this Saturday the 17th. Here’s a link: https://cubanbaseballauctions.com/bi...ce?itemid=2941

There’s a full description and listing of all the cards on the auction lot page, but there was a character limit from the auction software company, so I wasn’t able to go into detail about what makes this particular set so special, and why some of the non-HOF Negro League players are so important. Most people know (or should know) about the 5 HOFers in the set: Oscar Charleston, Pop Lloyd, Cristobal Torriente, Jose Mendez, and Andy Cooper. But there are so many other important Negro Leaguers and other players in this set. I thought it might be good to give each of those players his own post in this thread so there can be a brief biography of him, plus multiple examples of his Billiken card to compare with the one in this lot. These cards are photographic, so image quality is of upmost importance, similar to Old Judges. It will be helpful to see different examples side by side to really understand this point.

Over the next day or two, I’ll post biographies of many of the important non-HOF players, along with comparison scans. This set has cards of 5 or 6 players that have a legit shot at being HOFers at some point in the future. Players like Oliver "Ghost" Marcelle, Dobie Moore, Nip Winters, Clint Thomas, and Frank Duncan. Plus a number of other excellent players you may not know about, but should. If there are any questions, post them in this thread. Thanks.

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Here's an example of how different image quality can be from card to card. This is HOFer John Henry "Pop" Lloyd. The card on the top left is the one in this set.

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This is Oscar Charleston. He very well could be the greatest all-around baseball player ever to play the game. He's certainly one of only 4 or 5 players in that argument. Here are some close up comparisons from 7 different examples of his 1923-24 Billiken cards. The one 2nd from the left is the one in this lot.

[BeanTown]

What an amazing set. Glad to see you back posting Ryan..

[calvindog]

Great set and cool auction as always.

[Seven]

Absolutely incredible set. Wish I had the funds to purchase it!

[ElCabron]

This is Oliver Marcelle. He has a legit shot at having a plaque in Cooperstown someday. Of the cards below, the top left one is the one in this set. Notice the difference in image quality. Here's an article about Marcelle that is on the Hall of Fame's website, written by Larry Brunt:


Long before Jackie Robinson integrated the Major Leagues in 1947, sportswriters in African-American newspapers had been advocating for the big leagues to allow Black athletes onto the field. One example appears in the Sept. 1, 1934 Colored Baseball & Sports Monthly, written by editor Nat Trammell, a document recently digitized by the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum and now available in the Museum's online collection, PASTIME.

In “Will Colored Players enter the Major Leagues?”, Trammell points out that Black players and white players have already played with and against each other, and he references a number of exhibition games, specific players, and the Cuban winter leagues. It was in Cuba, he recounts, where Bill Holland, an ace pitcher for the Black Yankees, facing Black, white, and Latino players, won $500 in gold for being the best pitcher in the league (over $6,800 in 2016 dollars). Then, almost as an afterthought, Trammell adds, “Marcel, leading colored third baseman, took the hitting honors away.”

Trammell may have given brief notice to Oliver Marcelle (sometimes spelled “Marcell,” “Marcel” or “Marsel”) because he was probably not who Trammell wanted to see integrate the Major Leagues; he was known as a terrific player, but equally for having a terrific temper.

Nat Trammell's "Will Colored Players enter the Major League?" appeared in the Sept. 1, 1934 "Colored Baseball & Sports Monthly." In it, he mentions, almost in passing, that Marcelle had won $500 in gold in the winter Cuban League. BA-EPH-Negro-Leagues-7-002. (National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum)

But Marcelle, a Creole from Louisiana, is no footnote in Negro League history. And that season in Cuba, when Holland and Marcelle each carried home $500 worth of gold, they were teammates on a historic team. Even today, Cubans speak of the 1924 Leopardos de Santa Clara like many baseball fans speak of the 1927 Yankees. It was simply the greatest team the country had ever known.

Besides Marcelle and Holland, Santa Clara had Oscar Charleston and Cuban pitcher José Méndez, both later elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame. And while the other three teams in the league were comprised of big league players and future Hall of Famers like Martín Dihigo and John Henry “Pop” Lloyd, they offered little competition to the Leopardos.

So dominant were the Leopardos – frequently scoring in the double-digits – that they took an insurmountable lead in the standings. With the championship a foregone conclusion, attendance dropped. The league responded by simply cutting the season short and declaring Santa Clara the champions. They finished with a 36-11 record (.766 winning percentage), 11.5 games in front of the next best team. The league then broke up the last-place team and reassigned its best players to the other two teams competing against Santa Clara, for a shortened second season, which Santa Clara won as well (though only by half a game). Santa Clara led the league in virtually every offensive category, including runs, doubles, home runs, hits, and stolen bases. The team hit a collective .331, a Cuban League record, with Marcelle leading the way at .393.

In addition winter ball, Marcelle played stateside, beginning in 1918. He played for a number of teams, winning pennants twice with the Atlantic City Bacharach Giants and once with the Baltimore Black Sox.

Marcelle regularly hit above .300 and played stellar defense. Baseball Hall of Famer Judy Johnson, normally a third baseman, said that when he played with Marcelle in Cuba, Johnson was moved to second base so Marcelle could stay at third. According to another Negro League third baseman, Bobby Robinson, Marcelle played 10 feet closer to the plate than any other third baseman dared. He was quick enough to knock down line drives to either side, and he essentially eliminated the possibility of opponents bunting to the left side of the infield.

Pop Lloyd called him the greatest third baseman in the Negro Leagues, and a 1952 poll in the Pittsburgh Courier came to the same conclusion. But in spite his enormous talent, Marcelle was a difficult teammate.

Buck O’Neil said people called him “The Ghost” because he would disappear after the game, not to be seen in his hotel room, and then reappear the next day at the ballpark. His nights were spent on the town. At a bar in 1925, he was involved in an altercation that ended with a man being shot and killed. Marcelle was arrested, but not charged after it was determined Marcelle hadn’t fired the gun.

He lost his temper on the field, too, arguing with umpires, fighting with opponents, and clashing with teammates. Once in a game, in a rage, he hit teammate Oscar Charleston over the head with a baseball bat.

His temper was well-known by fans, who would taunt and heckle until it affected his play. Wrote one columnist in a 1924 article in the New York Age, “He was a victim of almost uncontrollable temper, as he let fans and umpires get his goat.”

In 1930, a game of cards with teammate Frank Warfield dissolved into a brawl. Warfield ended up in jail, and Marcelle ended up in the hospital, with a large chunk of his nose bitten off. Marcelle would play future games with a patch on his nose. Some said his vanity and the ridicule from opposing players and fans led him to retire, but the fact is that that Marcelle, then 33, was in decline. He continued to play, but for independent and second tier teams, and he barnstormed as late as 1934. That year, he retired, moved to Denver, and took odd jobs to support himself, mostly painting houses.

Denver at the time held the Denver Post Tournament, biggest semi-pro and independent team tournament in the United States, dubbed “The Little World Series.” According to Chet Brewer, a star pitcher for the Kansas City Monarchs, Marcelle urged the organizers at the Post to include independent Negro League teams. Two teams broke the color line at the 1934 tournament: the Monarchs (then independent) and the integrated House of David barnstorming team, which at the time was borrowing Satchel Paige from the Monarchs (the two clubs often cooperated on tours). The Monarchs proved no match for the white teams assembled, and Paige almost single-handedly powered his club to the championship. More significantly, the tournament introduced Paige to a nation-wide, white audience, an important step in the road to integration.

This was the same year that Marcelle was mentioned as an afterthought in the editorial by Nat Trammell. Both Trammell and Marcelle, it turns out, were fighting equally for the same cause.

Marcelle would continue to recruit Black players to the Denver Post Tournament, and continue to paint houses. He died in 1949, just before his 54th birthday, of arteriosclerosis, in poverty, and was buried in an unmarked grave.

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Here are some examples of HOFer Cristobal Torriente. The big one at the top left is the one in this set. Again, notice the difference in image quality.

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This is Clint "Hawk" Thomas. He's another player that has a legit shot at being inducted into the HOF. The example in the top left is the one in this set. Here's an article about him written by the phenomenal artist Gary Cieradkowski:

CLINT THOMAS was one of those rare ballplayers who was absolutely consistent no matter where or when he played. When you had Thomas on your club, you could conservatively pencil him in for a .310 average and sleep tight at night knowing your outfield had no gaps on either side of the centerfielder. Thomas played pro ball for 17 seasons, many of those year-round in Cuba or Florida in the winter. He’s credited with a lifetime Negro League average of .321, Cuban Winter League average of .311 and .311 in 35 games played against white major league teams. If you’re talking about consistent, you’re talking about Clint Thomas.

CLINTON CYRUS THOMAS was born in Greenup, Kentucky, a town along the banks of the Ohio River in 1896. According to Thomas, he didn’t play much baseball as a kid because there weren’t any ball fields for he and his friends to play on. It wasn’t until his family moved to the more urban surroundings of Columbus, Ohio where the teenager began his baseball career. He played a little ball when he wasn’t working in a Kroger grocery store, but then World War I began. Thomas served a year in the Army and was a Sergeant by the time the war ended.

He returned to Columbus, married Virginia Johnson, and began taking his ballplaying seriously. After a year of showcasing his talent on the city’s sandlots, local baseball fans collected $100 to send Thomas to New York to try out for the Brooklyn Royal Giants. With only a single summer of semi-pro ball Thomas and his fans felt he was ready for the big time, which speaks highly of his confidence and the raw talent he possessed.

The Royal Giants were on the down-side of being one of the premier Blackball outfits, but still boasted legend John Henry Lloyd at short and Jesse Hubbard on the mound. While Thomas’ confidence was at a pro level his skills weren’t there yet, and he finished the 1920 season batting under .200 in limited use.

Fortunately for Thomas, the newly formed Negro National League put a franchise in Columbus called the Buckeyes. His teammate from the Royal Giants, John Henry Lloyd, was the new team’s manager, and Thomas played the 1921 season hitting just shy of .300. Still, all the pieces weren’t right for Thomas. Because of his speed he was always shifted between second and third base, but never felt comfortable at either position and had trouble turning the double play. Then the Buckeye’s folded and Thomas was cut loose.

His contract was acquired by the Detroit Stars for 1922. He was still floundering at second base when fate stepped in. Regular center fielder Jessie Barber got injured, and when the right fielder was switched to center, Thomas took his place. It was a stroke of genius. In his first game as an outfielder, the fleet footed Kentuckian snatched up anything that came near him, including balls meant for the center fielder. The next game he was switched to center and a Negro League legend was born. More comfortable in his new position, Thomas loosened up and finished 1922 as the Star’s best hitter. The following year Hilldale, an eastern powerhouse club located just outside Philadelphia, poached Thomas away.

WITH HILLDALE, Thomas became known as “The Hawk” for his fielding skills, gliding all over the outfield making plays with a talent so graceful that old-timers could clearly remember one Hawk play or another through the fog of decades gone by. Ted Page, a Negro League star of the mid 1920s and ‘30s recalled that Thomas “attacked the ball the way a dog attacked raw meat.” Hall of Famer Monte Irvin grew up in Paterson, New Jersey watching the best black and white teams of the 1930s and, starting in 1937, played in both the Negro and Major Leagues. His opinion should be taken very seriously when out of all the black players he witnessed, it was Clint Thomas who Irvin called “the black Joe DiMaggio.” To draw a more contemporary comparison, the Hall of Famer said, “Clint was a Pete Rose type of player, he always went all out.”

That aggressive attitude didn’t just apply to batting and fielding – Thomas quickly established himself as one of blackball’s best base runners as well. Buck Leonard, Hall of Famer and contemporary of Thomas remembered “when he got on base we all knew what was on his mind. He had stealing on his mind.” Judy Johnson, another Hall of Famer and contemporary called him one of the best he ever saw play and said, “I called him “Racehorse” because he ran to first so fast that he almost had to turn around backwards to stop.”

The Hawk was Hilldale’s clean-up hitter throughout the 1920s. Thomas, along with future Hall of Famers Judy Johnson, Frank Warfield, Biz Mackey and Louis Santop, powered Hilldale to three consecutive Eastern Colored League pennants from 1923-25. In 1924 the first “Colored World Series” was held, pitting Hilldale against the Kansas City Monarchs, winners of the Negro National League pennant. The Monarchs took the best of nine series, with Thomas hitting a disappointing .237. The same two teams met again the next October, with Hilldale prevailing, 5 games to 1. The Hawk raised his average to .273 with two doubles and two stolen bases. Now in the prime of his career, Thomas led the Eastern Colored League in stolen bases in 1926 while batting .305 with 9 homers and followed that up with .302 in 1927.

The Hawk’s reputation at this time earned him an annual invite to play in the Cuban Winter League. This short-season league featured not only the best Negro Leaguers, but also the finest ballplayers the Cuban, Puerto Rican and Dominican leagues had to offer. To be chosen to participate in this highly-competitive league was not only an honor but also provided a handsome paycheck. Playing mostly for the Almendares Blues, Thomas would return to Cuba seven times between 1923 to 1930, batting over .300 five times, including .373 in 1924-25 and .393 in 1930.

AFTER DOMINATING the East Coast baseball scene for almost a decade, Hilldale began to hemorrhage players to other teams with bigger pocketbooks. At this time finances for black baseball teams were precarious at best, and Thomas spent the next couple years following the dollar sign around from team to team. As the best clean-up man in the game, The Hawk was a much sought after item and after periods with the Atlantic City Bacharachs and Homestead Grays, Thomas returned to New York City where his pro career began. He hooked up with the old Lincoln Giants, a once proud powerhouse now winding down as an independent team playing in the lucrative Metropolitan semi-pro scene. Even though New York had a large black population with disposable income to burn, Negro League teams found it hard to build a strong team in the city.

In 1932, popular entertainer Bill ”Bojangles” Robinson and promoter Nat Strong partnered with a shadowy gangster named James “Soldier Boy” Semler and took over the remains of the Lincoln Giants. Renamed the “New York Black Yankees,” the owners hired Clint Thomas and John Henry Lloyd to add some credibility to a team of underpaid kids and washed up vets.

Despite their grandiose name, the Black Yankees were the doormat of the Negro Leagues. Still, the team was monetarily successful due to their monopoly on the New York City market. Unfortunately, Semler used the team primarily to launder his underworld profits and did nothing to improve the Black Yankees talent pool. Still, Thomas continued to shine. It was during this period that he was able to demonstrate his considerable talent to the largest audience. Unlike Hilldale, which primarily stayed close to Philadelphia, the Black Yankees not only regularly played in Yankee Stadium before upwards of 30,000 fans, but also toured extensively.

DURING ONE SUCH ROAD TRIP in 1932, Clint Thomas made what has gone down to be the greatest catch in blackball history. Gus Greenlee, owner of the Pittsburgh Crawfords, built a grandiose stadium to showcase the virtual All-Star team he was assembling. For the very first game played in Greenlee Field, the Crawfords hosted the Black Yankees. With the legendary Satchel Paige on the mound, the Craws expected opening day at the only black-owned sports complex to be an easy win for the home team. Unfortunately, Clint Thomas had other ideas.

With the Black Yanks up 1-0 and a few Crawfords on base, slugger Josh Gibson pounded a long fly ball to deep left center. The Hawk turned on his heels and peeled off for the fence, his back to the plate. The left fielder ran alongside yelling “Got it Hawk? Got it?” Thomas just ran as fast as he could and when he reached the wall, stretched his arm out high and snagged the ball right at the top of the wall. The air went out of the Crawfords after that and the Black Yankees beat Paige. Ted Page, a member of the Crawfords that day remarked, “Clint could chase that ball into another world.”

In 1934 The Hawk got the opportunity to show what he had against the best pitcher in the Major Leagues, 30-game winner Dizzy Dean. Dean and the St. Louis Cardinals had just defeated the Detroit Tigers in the World Series and several of the players embarked on a barnstorming tour. On October 17, Dizzy Dean, his brother Paul and future Hall of Famer Joe Medwick joined the Brooklyn Bushwicks in a night game against the Black Yankees at Dexter Park in Queens.

With the game scoreless in the 4th, Clint Thomas hit a two out triple. Years later, The Hawk told historian John Holway that he told Bushwicks third baseman Buck Lai, “Shit, I can steal home on him.” Lai called time and told Dean what Thomas planned to do. Characteristically, Diz invited him to try. As he went into his windup, The Hawk took off for home, and when the dust settled, the ump called “safe!” Dean went into a tirade that cast a dark spell over the rest of the game. Diz threw at the next batter, George Scales, and later angrily chased away a Black Yankees player who wanted an autograph. That steal of home proved to be the winning run as the Black Yanks blanked the Bushwicks, 6-0. After the game Dean fumed to Brooklyn Daily Eagle sportswriter Harold Parrott, “That is the first home that was ever stoled on me, and one of them Black Yankees had to do it.”

There’s no record of where or if Thomas played ball in 1935. In one of the oddest mysteries of Blackball, The Hawk is pictured in a Brooklyn Eagles uniform, but does not appear in any available box scores. Dr. Layton Revel’s painstakingly researched biography, Forgotten Heroes: Clint “Hawk” Thomas available on the Center for Negro League Baseball Research website, opines that he may have been injured all season. Fourteen seasons of hard-traveling, year-round ball must have taken a toll on the 39 year-old. He split 1936 between the Newark Eagles and New York Cubans before returning to the Black Yanks for 1937. Thomas was hitting a nice .317 when he severely injured his ankle. He attempted a comeback at the beginning of 1938 but called it a career after only a few games.

Thomas drove a delivery truck for the Ballantine Scotch Company, then segued into a small real estate business. Finally, The Hawk and his second wife Ellen settled in West Virginia where he became a staff supervisor for the state’s Department of Mines and then a messenger for the State Senate, a post he held well into his 80’s. The old ball hawk passed away at the age of 94 in 1990.

CLINT THOMAS was one of the most likable players of his time, and when The Hawk turned the big eight-oh in 1976, his old hometown of Greenup, Kentucky honored him with a birthday party that became the very first Negro League reunion. Long before the big collector-fueled heyday of Negro League collecting of the 1990’s, the annual Greenup reunion was an intimate affair where the old superstars of segregated baseball congregated to relive their past glory.

At the center of it all was The Hawk.

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Here are few examples of HOFer José Méndez. The one in the top left is the one in this set.

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This is Walter "Dobie" Moore. Now THIS is a guy you need to know about. Another possible HOFer, he was one of the best Negro League shortstops of the 1920s. His career batting average was .345 in 7 years with the Kansas City Monarchs. His career was cut short when he was shot in the leg by an angry ex-girlfriend and then jumped out of a second story window to keep from getting killed. It worked, he survived, but his playing career was over.

The example from this set is the top left one below. You can really see how incredible the image quality is compared to other examples. This a theme throughout the set.

Here's an article you should read about Dobie Moore that was published a week ago on MLB's website: https://www.mlb.com/news/dobie-moore...baseball-great

[ElCabron]

Here is Alejandro Oms. He was one of the final 30 Negro Leaguers voted on for the Hall of Fame back in 2006. He didn't quite make it then, but it's certainly possible some day. Alejandro Oms, Oscar Charleston, and Pablo "Champion" Mesa formed the greatest outfield in Cuban League history on the 1923-24 Santa Clara team which they are pictured on in these cards. Oms was a career .336 hitter in 15 seasons in the American Negro Leagues, but he also dominated in his native Cuba, Venezuela, and anywhere else he went. He was a pure hitter. The card in the top left pictured below is the one in this set.

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Truly is an amazing set. Never before seen in one spot and an incredible opportunity for someone. So many great cards I would love to have and they all have incredible clarity compared to almost all other copies.

Thanks
Chad

[Schlesinj]

Buyers group anyone? Tough to break this beauty up.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Buyers group anyone? Tough to break this beauty up.

I’ve already placed a bid. LMK who’s in and maybe we will make an effort to get it. However there is a reserve on it so don’t know what it would take

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Buyers group anyone? Tough to break this beauty up.

Not a bad idea. Definitely interested in a few of the cards.

Thanks
Chad

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Here's Frank Duncan. When people think of the Kansas City Monarchs, they usually think of either Satchel Paige or Buck O'Neil. But the REAL Mr. Monarch was Frank Duncan. He had a 25 year career in the Negro Leagues as a player, with 21 of them on the Monarchs. But he also managed the team for most of the 1940s. SABR has a great biography of him, which you can read here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/frank-duncan/

The card in the top left is the one in this set.

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Here are some examples of HOFer Andy Cooper. The one from this set is the top left.

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This is Jesse "Nip" Winters. He is the best pitcher in the history of the Eastern Colored League. The example from this set is on the top left. The sleeve SGC uses for these isn't clear like mylar, so it makes the images look less clear than they really are. This is particularly noticeable here. The card has received a grade of 7 by SGC, which is incredible. Out of 543 examples they have graded from this issue, only 3 cards have ever graded higher.


Here's a biography of Winters written by James A. Riley:

The best pitcher in the Eastern Colored League's history was a tall, left-handed curveballer named Nip Winters. Although he had good speed to go with his outstanding curve, he was somewhat wild, especially early in his career. The Hilldale ace pitched his team to pennants in the first three years of the league's existence, including a World Series victory in 1925.

In 1923 Winters registered a sensational 32-6 record on the mound while pitching against all competition. He fashioned records of 19-5 in 1924 and 21-10 in 1925 in league play, including a no-hitter the former season. In the 1924 World Series he pitched 4 complete games, including a shutout, and won 3 games in accruing a 1.16 ERA. However, his brilliant effort was negated, as the Kansas City Monarchs emerged victorious. In the 1925 World Series he added another complete-game victory and a 2.00 ERA to gain a measure of revenge as Hilldale prevailed against the Monarchs.

In 1926-1927 he posted records of 15-5 and 14-8 with Hilldale but was suspended during the latter season for "not trying." Possibly the team's disenchantment with his play was partly related to his excessive drinking. Whatever the cause, in April 1928 he was traded with George Carr to the New York Lincoln Giants for Red Ryan and Rev Cannady. Later in the season he was released by the Lincoln Giants and picked up by the Homestead Grays in late September, but he returned to the Lincolns' fold in 1929. By then his fastball was no longer effective, and his marks for the two years were 8-7 and 3-5.

He started his professional career with Chappie Johnson's Norfolk Stars in 1919 and, except for a short stint with the Baltimore Black Sox in 1920, remained with the Stars until joining the Bacharach Giants in 1921. That season he posted a 3-2 mark against top black teams, and in the playoffs for the championship against Rube Foster's Chicago American Giants, Winters won the opening game with a 2-hit shutout. The next season he posted a record of 4-3, but left the Bacharachs in 1923 until almost a decade later, when he returned to Atlantic City in the twilight of his career, posting marks of 1-5 and 1-1 in 1931 and 1932, and ending his career in a Bacharachs' uniform in 1933. Afterward he went to Canada and remained through 1940.

A good hitter, he sometimes pinch hit or played first base, and he showed averages of .345 and .314 in 1925 and 1926. He also often played in exhibition games against major-leaguers and, playing against Babe Ruth's All Stars, he split 2 decisions with the Philadelphia Athletics' great lefthander Lefty Grove. Winters' three winters in the Cuban League, 1923-1926, were less distinguished, as he posted an unimpressive 4-12 composite mark. Much of his poor performance on the island can be attributed to an extreme lack of control, a problem he battled throughout his career. After closing out his baseball career he worked sporadically as a handyman and continued to cultivate his excessive drinking habits.

[ElCabron]

Just a reminder that this lot, and the rest of CubanBaseballCards.com Auction #35 will end TONIGHT at 10:00 pm EST with a 15-minute rule.

Here's a link: https://cubanbaseballauctions.com/Lots/Gallery

[paul]

Nice to see that the complete Billiken set met the reserve and was sold. Hopefully the new owner will be very happy with it. Maybe even a board member.