Kelloggs cards?

[homerunhitter]

Anyone collect Kellogg cards anymore?

[Cliff Bowman]

I can't where I live.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I can't where I live.

What happened there? The weather?

[GeoPoto]

If they played for Washington, sure.

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[savedfrommyspokes]

I received my first Kelloggs cards in the mid 80s....I am now about 85 cards from finishing the whole baseball run. What is weird is how some of the cards I received in the mid 80s still look great and others not so much. I live in the coastal south and keep them in the AC in plastic pages, but what I can't account for is where these cards were for their first 12-15 years. Thus, my thought over the years has evolved to these cards survive longer and avoid cracking if they are cared for (kept in AC) early on in their existence. This is my only explanation for why some in my collection have cracked, and others have not.

Either way, I am always excited to add new (to me) cards to this run and eventually one day complete it (obviously with some cracks).

[mortimer brewster]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I can't where I live.

I've had all sorts of problems with Kellogg's cards from 1974 that I have purchased over the last few years. They appear fine when purchased then shortly thereafter the cracking begins.

The cards from all the other years are fine so it isn't an issue with how I store them.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by drcy

What happened there? The weather?

High humidity in the Southeast, it’s ruining my comic book collection too with foxing.

[ALR-bishop]

Cliff--if you have an exacto knife you can turn it into something like a Topps 1974 Puzzle card

[Chris Counts]

I love those old Kelloggs cards. I had never heard about humidity cracking them — I'll think twice before moving east of the Mississippi River.

Does anybody know why the 1975 set is so tough? I was under the impression that the 1971 set was the rare one because you couldn't send away for them, but there's nearly twice as many on eBay as those from 1975.

[OldSchoolBaseball]

I'm looking for boxes and paying up to get ones I don't have (1970-1983). Love some Kellogg's!!

[David W]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolBaseball

I'm looking for boxes and paying up to get ones I don't have (1970-1983). Love some Kellogg's!!

Very nice collection. Complete boxes are tough

[insidethewrapper]

Stopped collecting Kellogg's. Tired of buying PSA 9's and 10's and then having them crack the next time I looked at them. The 1975 cards are the worst, but also had a lot of trouble with the 1971's.

[Wihawk]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolBaseball

I'm looking for boxes and paying up to get ones I don't have (1970-1983). Love some Kellogg's!!

Those boxes bring back some great memories, nice collection.
I remember pulling my favorite pitcher's card Don Sutton from a box in 1070. I still have the Sutton card and have picked up some 1970 cards in the last year, I love the 3D look.

[GrewUpWithJunkWax]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Stopped collecting Kellogg's. Tired of buying PSA 9's and 10's and then having them crack the next time I looked at them. The 1975 cards are the worst, but also had a lot of trouble with the 1971's.

I was curious if slabbing them would save them - guess not

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by GrewUpWithJunkWax

I was curious if slabbing them would save them - guess not

This slabbed 1974 Wilbur Wood had ZERO cracks when I bought it six or seven years ago, it did this within a month or two once I got ahold of it.

[Casey2296]

The key to collecting Kellogg's 3-D is to keep them in a consistent environment, such as a dark 300 year old wine cellar, when viewing your collection never stare directly at the card always a sideways glance, always approach from a respectful distance, genuflecting is encouraged. If the card collecting gods choose to smile on you your card will be fine, otherwise you will see it age faster than a picture of Dorian Grey...

[jchcollins]

The idea of cracking bugs me, but it hasn't happened to me yet. I have two graded Kellogg's, a 1970 Carew and a '74 Reggie Jackson, both PSA 8's. Not sure what specifically leads it to happen, but I know they can crack in the slab. They seem fine so far. They usually live in a box in the AC, 75 degrees or so on average in NC. Nothing seems extreme, but who knows.

[GasHouseGang]

I love this set. It hasn't cracked at all since I bought it.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I love this set. It hasn't cracked at all since I bought it.

I think the cracking has less to do with where graded cards are stored now than it does how they were stored before they were graded. The Kellogg cards had a tendency to curl badly if they were not stored flat. So if they were curled for decades and then suddenly put into PSA slabs, those are the ones more apt to crack.

At least this is my working theory. I don't have enough of a collection to really try to prove it. I will say I am working on the '73 Kellogg's set, which is the one that doesn't have this problem.

[Cliff Bowman]

High humidity causes the plastic covering to shrink in size but does not affect the cardboard part of the card under the plastic coating, this is what causes the cards to curl up if they’re not slabbed or in a rigid holder, and to crack if they are slabbed or in a rigid holder.

[sealmark2]

My story about the 1975 set. That year an employee of Kellogs gave me a 30 gallon drum of the cards in their original paper wrapping. Like a dummy I opened every one of them.

The long and short of it is that while I somehow salvaged quite a few and still have most of the set a large box of perhaps 2000 (a guess) completely curled and cracked. A year ago we decided there was no use keeping them and my son took them to his work dumpster.

One side note is that I put away many of the star cards in a small box and they have remained crack and curl free.

I have all of the other Kellogg sets put away and have not looked at them in years but believe they are still in great condition. Will find out some day I guess.
Sealmark

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

High humidity causes the plastic covering to shrink in size but does not affect the cardboard part of the card under the plastic coating, this is what causes the cards to curl up if they’re not slabbed or in a rigid holder, and to crack if they are slabbed or in a rigid holder.

Makes sense. So for those that are already slabbed and not cracked, just keep them out of humidity?

[David W]

A couple of 1970's hand cut proofs. McCarver has print lines of some sort on the back.

Also, a repack from the early 1970's of surplus stock.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

High humidity causes the plastic covering to shrink in size but does not affect the cardboard part of the card under the plastic coating, this is what causes the cards to curl up if they’re not slabbed or in a rigid holder, and to crack if they are slabbed or in a rigid holder.

I agree that the problem is caused by humidity, but it's probably a combination of paper and plastic. I went down a rabbit hole when looking this up on the web. Paper will change when it gets wet. Paper is usually rolled and dried under the pressure of rollers. The dried paper is essentially stretched leaving residual strain in the paper. When the paper gets exposed to higher humidity this allows the paper in the card to become "wet" and then when the paper redries without the stretching force being present the paper shrinks.
On the other hand, plastics are hydroscopic. They take up high amounts of water already in normal climate conditions (50% humidity in air). Direct contact with water results in even more water uptake. Hydrolysis resistance is low and as a result cracks are formed over time when exposed to water.
So it seems the paper causes the card to curl up and then the humidity causes the plastic to crack.

[irv]

My only Kelloggs card, which is uncracked and still in its original wrapper.
More than likely just been kept in a shoebox its entire life?
No idea how I acquired it other than the obvious sometime in my childhood/youth.

[darkhorse9]

Your Seaver card is from 1992 when they had figured out a lot of the issues with cracking. Those were made by SportsFlics (which made quite a run of sets in the 90's)

I've got a near complete run of Kelloggs sets 1970-1985. I have had very little cracking issues. I keep my cards in 9-pocket sheets, but I've trimmed top loaders that fir in to each pocket to keep the cards straight. So far it's worked pretty good.

[irv]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

Your Seaver card is from 1992 when they had figured out a lot of the issues with cracking. Those were made by SportsFlics (which made quite a run of sets in the 90's)

I've got a near complete run of Kelloggs sets 1970-1985. I have had very little cracking issues. I keep my cards in 9-pocket sheets, but I've trimmed top loaders that fir in to each pocket to keep the cards straight. So far it's worked pretty good.

Thanks, Mark.
I had no idea what year it was from but now I'm more confused on where I acquired it?

[Cliff Bowman]

Speaking of Kellogg's, there are three cards I have never seen proof of, 1972 Dick Drago with Poyals on the back, 1976 Jim Kaat with the White Sox emblem on the back, and 1977 Lyman Bostock with Dock Ellis pictured on the back. I don't doubt the 1972 Drago exists, but I always wondered if it was a printing flaw with the R partially obstructed rather than an error variation with an incorrect P. Does anyone have scans of any of the three?

[Harliduck]

Loved Kelloggs cards as a kid, with my favorite being the 73's and had a few. Only 3D cards I have now are the 70 & 71 Killebrew and have pondered if I should do the run. The thread here has been fun to follow...so I've kept my eye on them...and came across a great deal on a complete 73 set. With all the cracking issues and all that...still not sure I want to invest the time and dollars but the 73s are obviously safe. Pretty stoked.

Thanks for all the info...I sure bothered my mom a lot as a kid for those. Cereal and Hostess everyday!

[UKCardGuy]

This thread worried me as I'm 74% through a full 1970 - 1983 Kelloggs run.

I've gone to check my cards....except for a few, they're all still OK. I'm not sure if the few that I've spotted have cracked since I bought them or if I just didn't notice them before...but I'll be keeping an eye on it. I keep them in penny sleeves in toploaders.

I love this set. It brings me back to my childhood reading the boxes while eating my breakfast and thinking about those cards.

[Zach Wheat]

'81 Kellogg's sheet. I stopped collecting Kellogg's sheets when I realized they were very difficult to keep from cracking once rolled up.

[David W]

Just picked up this 3 card panel from 1970 along with the square cut 1970 Super

[The-Cardfather]

After seeing this thread, I went and checked all of my Kellogg's. I've had most of them in slabs for quite a few years. I don't know why they haven't showed any signs of cracking. (Not that I'm complaining.) I keep them in a closet in my home.

[JollyElm]

In a perfect world, every single one of us would ONLY collect Kellogg's cards. They immediately send us on a time warp back to the glory days of our childhood, digging to get to the bottom of that sugary cereal goodness and claim our prize!!!!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

the glory days of our childhood, digging to get to the bottom of that sugary cereal goodness and claim our prize!!!!

Take the card. Leave the cereal.

[darkhorse9]

Kelloggs cards seem to be getting cheaper to pick up since many dealers are getting skittish about their cards cracking some day, so they're unloading them now at discounts.

[Exhibitman]

I checked my 1970 Kellogg’s over the weekend. These are cards in some cases that I’ve had stored in penny sleeves inside card savers in albums for decades. Not a crack in sight. I am thinking that cracking is a product of curling and that flat stored cards are not getting hit the same way as cards that have sat loose over the years.

[Kurri17]

A little late to the party on this thread, but I'm a big Kellogg's collector. I have a complete NM no-crack run of all the baseball sets and nearing completion on second sets for several years. Also have a NM '70 FB set and six cards away from a crack free '71 football set. I cold go on and on about Kellogg's, but the one thing I will add is that yes, a consistent environment is important, but if it has been flat for years, it will be fine. If it has been curled and then you try to store it flat it will most likely crack. I believe a lot of the ones that are graded and then crack most likely had some degree of curl prior to slabbing.

Love me some Kellogg's, fun to see this thread.

[smallstocks]

I am always looking for minty 1970 or 1972 unopened one-card packs. That said, I have a fair amount of cards from both sets that I put in 9 card sheets back in the late 70's and not a single one of them has cracked.

[gawaintheknight]

Is it OK to post wantlists here? If not, I'll come back and delete it. I'm more interested in the ones I'm missing completely than the variations.

I have Kelloggs baseball to trade from 70-79, cracked and uncracked, not many from the 80s. A few football.

Also, is that '77 Bostock error super hard? I've been looking for it for a while....

1972 Kellogg's All-Time Greats (06/10/17) (need 2) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

Please no cracks on these!

13 Gehrig, 14 Ruth

1973 Kellogg's (06/08/12) (need 5) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

6 Rose, 16 Ryan, 20 Hunter, 21 McGraw, 38 Perry

1974 Kellogg's (03/05/12) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

Please no cracks on these!

1 Gibson 3 Coleman 5 Fisk 6 Palmer 7a Santo (Cubs on back) 10a Bell (134 total runs) 34a Wood (959 total SO)

1975 Kellogg's (03/05/12) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

Please no cracks on these!

1 White 2 Grimsley 4b Grich (no "1973 work" in last line) 7 Bench 11 Rose 33 Carew 39 Brock 44a Hunter (A's logo on back) 56 Schmidt

1976 Kellogg's (10/19/15) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

Please no cracks on these!

1 Hargan 24 Yaz 30 Tanana (1975 ERA 2.62) 32 Seaver (I have the 1967 PCT .552 version – need the one with no decimal point) 41a Rivers (last sentence begins "In three") 45 Orta (AB 1615) 47a Blue 47b Blue 49 Matlack (1975 ER 86) 52a Lindblad (1975 ERA 2.72)

1977 Kellogg's (05/21/11) (at least ExMt, no creases, no writing, no cracks)

Please no cracks on these!

16a Bostock (back photo is Dock Ellis – it's a different photo than the front)

[insidethewrapper]

I've never seen confirmation of the 1977 Kellogg Bostock card with the Doc Ellis photo back. Has anyone seen one in person ? May be a book mistake.

[71buc]

I live in Washington State and have a large number of Kelloggs cards. I loved them as a kid. I didn’t put them in sleeves of any type. They all live in a box and have curled. The ones that seem to have cracked the most are from the 1970 set. The rest for the most part the rest have relatively survived. I have a few pieces of production art for the Kelloggs cards. I’m happy to report that none of them have curled or cracked to date LOL.

[wdwfan]

Glad I came across this post. I just picked up a notebook full of various years from 71-80-something. I put maybe 25% of them in my trash pile because they were cracked or whatever it's called. So I have probably 200 that I"m going to be sorting and storing. I just don't know how to store them to keep them from warping.

[darkhorse9]

I keep mine in nine pocket sheets, but cut down a top loader so that it fits in the pockets and slide the card between those pieces. So far that seems to keep the cards from cracking and certainly from curling.