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Old 01-12-2021, 09:01 PM
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Default Lou Gehrig underrated?

I’m trying to determine which Lou to chase and it made me wonder why there isn’t much talk of him on the board or in BST. Growing up, I always thought he was one of the faces of “old time baseball”. Wondering if anyone else thought the same and why.

Of course since I’m on the prowl for a Lou let’s hear your favorites!
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My Favorite is the 1934 Goudey #61. Also McFarlane did a great job on those figures of him some years ago.
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I believe the answer, as determined by others, is lack of stock. He just didn't appear on very much compared to Ruth, Cobb, and others.



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Gehrig is one of the 10 best baseball players of all time. No argument. And many board members, myself included, collect his cards and other stuff. Gehrig wasn't a big larger than life bombastic blowhard like, well, Ruth. He was Larry Bird, not Mr. Jordan. Pete Sampras to John McEnroe. For those of us who love Gehrig it was his quiet class and low key demeanor in the face of horrible tragedy that catapults him to the front of the line of baseball iconography. But to some collectors nearly a century later that might not translate into the same rarefied air as, say Eddie Plank. I joke .....
There are many Gehrig collectors on the board.

If you can ever afford it, get a Gehrig DeLong. Now that's card. . . .

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I like one that shows the man's personality



And as long as we are talking Lou Gehrig:

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My first born is named Henry for his first name and Louis for his middle name. I was able to pick this up when it was a lot cheaper about 7 years ago. It pairs nicely with the 33 Gehrig my wife got me.

Gehrig to me was a tragic hero. He had all the gifts, but was humble throughout and unfortunately flared out way too early in life. Some people are too good for the world and have to leave a bit earlier than others. We could learn a lot from him today - humble, work ethic, positive demeanor, was not cowed by the spotlight of another.




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Here is Conlon’s original type 1 photo used for great exhibit card that Adam posted.
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...and here is the Delong.
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Wow - what a photo!

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I don't think there is a more well-known and recognized historical first baseman, so he's not underrated as a player. I think he gets less hobby love because he appears in few popular mainstream sets, his rookie is an Exhibit issued over several years in an odd size, and if you are going for one player from his era, 99% will choose Ruth, who deserves greater rating than Gehrig any way you look at the numbers.
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Gehrig>Ruth.
His stoic working man values have always appealed to me more than the Ruth lifestyle. My first pre war card as a kid was a 33 Goudey Gehrig #92, I still have that card today, I only wish I would have realized how special the 34 Goudey #37 card is and picked one up before the cost exceeded that of selling a kidney on the human organ black market.
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Gehrig's relationship with Ruth couldn't have been easy.
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Here's Lou in a (barely) post-war card.
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Gehrig>Ruth.
His stoic working man values have always appealed to me more than the Ruth lifestyle. My first pre war card as a kid was a 33 Goudey Gehrig #92, I still have that card today, I only wish I would have realized how special the 34 Goudey #37 card is and picked one up before the cost exceeded that of selling a kidney on the human organ black market.
That's an interesting take. For myself and I'm guessing others, Ruth is so much more enamored because not only was he a better ball player than Gehrig, he had, well... a seemingly much better personality. Gehrig from what I know, while congenial and a decent man.... was also boring.

Ruth's "lifestyle" and child-like demeanor is what attracts people. He's the prototypical example of a normal and regular human being with faults that was able to achieve greatness.... a perfect example of traditional American exceptionalism.

.... as Mr. Joel once stated... I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...
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Some Gehrigs that don't show up everyday.
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Many of the same things could be said about another 1930's all-time great first sacker, Jimmie Foxx. Hank Greenberg was up there in that same vicinity as well. Quite an era for first basemen in American League history.
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Gehrig Suffers from a few things. One being overshadowed by the Babe, Two not having many issues and three, tragically coming down with ALS and having his career derailed. It's consensus that he's the greatest 1st baseman ever. The ALS started affecting him around 1935, when he was still a relatively young 35 years old. Had this not been the case, his counting numbers would have been more impressive. 600 Home Runs and 3000 Hits most likely.

His cards are great, I eventually want to own a few of his issues, they're just unfortunately very pricey. Hopefully one day.
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Many of the same things could be said about another 1930's all-time great first sacker, Jimmie Foxx. Hank Greenberg was up there in that same vicinity as well. Quite an era for first basemen in American League history.
If I had the money to collect these three I would. 1930s were a great time!
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There a good handful of photos with Gehrig bouncing some baby or little kid on his lap. Always strike me as so sad, as one more thing Lou and his wife didn't get to experience. He always has a huge grin on in the photos I've seen of him with kids.
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Plenty of great Lou Gehrig cards, but this one in my opinion is not one of them...for some reason Lou's goofy grin in this image has contorted his face into a grotesque mask, and the card kinda scares the bejeebers out of me.

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Ha. I love this card but agree something is off. His ears are too pointy. A littler weird. I have what I think is the original photo used for this card. Will post it.


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Here's the original photo.
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Steve- Great photo. Here's a photo that I picked up from a board member. I love it.
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Steve- Great photo. Here's a photo that I picked up from a board member. I love it.
That's real nice.
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Stop scaring me Steve! Actually, the original is not quite as bad (and I can look at without running to hide under the bed).

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Does look a little flying money-ish, Wizard of Oz, no?


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Another avid Gehrig collector here
Here's what a 1926-29 Exhibits Gehrig would look like in nicely trimmed silhouette form.

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That one cracks me up every time, Brian. I used to have a Darby Chocolates card cut like that (Chief Meyers).
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Those are really nice, Gary. I think I might've owned the one with the pinhole in it...soooo tough in any condition.
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He is a personal favorite of mine. Have a painting and 33 Goudey also but this is my little corner Gerhig display.

I personally like the 34 Goudey yellow the best but still need one myself.

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Here are two fun ones:



1964 Penafiel. A Mexican soda set. Really rare and usually found thrashed from album removal.



Coney Island Arcade. Made for the arcade in the 1950s-early 1970s for use in old card machines, probably Mutoscopes based on the size. I've only seen two of them, this one and a blue tint version on page 43 of the book Cowboy Hero Arcade Cards.
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During one of those mid-twenties seasons, Gehrig produced 302 runs in 155 games, using the formula of total runs + rbi - home runs. That's nearly two runs per game! Nobody else has even come close to that production over the course of a single season - not even Ruth.
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Define Close.

Hack Wilson - 1930: 281
Hank Greenberg -1937: 281

Best two seasons besides Gehrig I could think of, both roughly 7% lower.
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That one cracks me up every time, Brian. I used to have a Darby Chocolates card cut like that (Chief Meyers).
It makes me smile too. The cutter did such a nice job on Lou. In the same group that I picked up Lou I also had Cobb and Ruth Exhibits that were cut similarly, but I liked the Gehrig pose the most, so I let go Ty and Babe.

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I've told you before, but I like how that Wheaties looks in that frame. It makes it look extra special. I need to pick up that fielding pose to go along with the batting pose.

A member on this site has a Wheaties single serving of Gehrig. That was a cool card. It is post #16 in the thread below:
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This is from the 1955 Standard School of Broadcast book of Famous Americans.
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How can you not love Gehrig in any color.
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I agree that Lou is underrated as far as prewar stars go. I have three of his cards, the '34 #37 being one of my favorite cards all time.
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And as long as we are talking Lou Gehrig:

'Larrupin' Lou Gehrig. I don't even think that it is a word. I have never heard the word "Larrupin" in any other context. Sort of like "unmitigated gall".
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I picked up this binder beauty recently to go with my 2 34 goudeys.
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Plenty of great Lou Gehrig cards, but this one in my opinion is not one of them...for some reason Lou's goofy grin in this image has contorted his face into a grotesque mask, and the card kinda scares the bejeebers out of me.

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Wow, that's a first for mine.
Posting a card and belittling it in a tribute thread.

It's actually my favourite, and I own one.

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Wow, that's a first for mine.
Posting a card and belittling it in a tribute thread.

It's actually my favourite, and I own one.

Your card doesn't have such dark areas around the eyes and mouth as seen in the one I found on the internet, and without this darkness the card appears much more attractive to my eyes.

You can now say I have belarged this card. I belarged Lou's 1926-29 Exhibits in another post, even if the example I own is die cut.

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Your card doesn't have such dark areas around the eyes and mouth as seen in the one I found on the internet, and without this darkness the card appears much more attractive to my eyes.

You can now say I have belarged this card. I belarged Lou's 1926-29 Exhibits in another post, even if the example I own is die cut.

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No need to backtrack, got no problem with you not being an admirer of the card....just seemed really odd to me in a thread created to pay homage to Lou you took time out to find a card you didn't like and make such a significant post about it.

No biggie. (yup, can be found in the dictionary)
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I am not ashamed to backtrack when it makes sense, because that is a good way to know where I have traveled. If I were to ever to pick up this card, I would definitely look for one that appears like yours, because the one I posted is positively hideous.

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My others.
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I'm a sucker for supplements and this one is pretty rare. I don't know much about the 1933-34 Blum's Bulletin supplements but for the price, even though it's kind of beat, I jumped. I also got the Delong earlier this month...
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I have a few examples. It wouldn't surprise me to see a big jump in Gehrig cards. He and Jackie transcend the hobby.



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